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Why Apple and the Carriers Want Your Old iPhone
- noworld 4y agohttps://www.livemint.com/technology/gadgets/why-apple-and-the-carriers-want-your-old-iphone-11678888212882.html https://www.livemint.com/technology/gadgets/why-apple-and-th...
- SSLy 4y agothe person that decided to wipe the URL upon scrolling through the bottom of the article, without putting it on the history stack, should have a wooden stake put through their eyeball
- postdb 4y agoHistory API is one of worse thing introduced to web. And it is only created to cater to the SPA developer who don't want to see # tag in their URL. With the all the APIs in HTML5 I think we ought to take a step back and get ride of some these.
- welder 4y agoThe History API is super useful, not sure why you don't like it. For ex: I can load some data from API, update the url with History API, then if the user refreshes the page they get the correct url but I just saved them a ton of bandwidth and time by not having to refresh the whole page.
- pfoof 4y agoit's not about history API being bad, it's about misuse to push the same url 1000 times onto the stack to the back button doesn't work
- welder 4y agoI've never seen that done, sounds like a bug in the website because there's not reason to do that. It's also an easy fix: close the tab and don't use websites that do that.
- welder 4y agoYou can choose to update the history stack or not. For example, this page uses the History API to update the url without changing the browser history stack: https://wakatime.com/pricing https://wakatime.com/pricing Click the toggle to show yearly pricing and the url is updated, but you can still press back to go to whatever previous page you visited. Then, this page DOES update the history stack when the url changes: https://wakatime.com/dashboard https://wakatime.com/dashboard Click the date range and select a new range, notice the url changes but also you can press back to go to your previous date range.
- postdb 4y agoIt breaks the expectations user have about browser. It is very snaky way to try to make a browser what it is not, all in the name of making SPA just to make a trend. It is one of thing most annoying about the IT industry, that it is a more about fashion then about tech.
- tantalor 4y agoWhat would you expect after scrolling to the bottom of the page and clicking back button? 1. Go to page you came from prior to that site 2. Go to the top of the page, stay on the site If you picked 1, then "without putting it on the history stack" is the correct choice.
- Nullabillity 4y agoThe correct choice is "don't screw with the URL".
- SSLy 4y agoIt depends if sites are infinite loading or not. For those that are, like the one linked in the parent comment, strong preference for 2.
- donohoe 4y agoAccessible version: https://archive.ph/w8z6l https://archive.ph/w8z6l
- blakesterz 4y agoI have quite a pile of old phones and tablets in a cabinet. They're all broken in one way or another, I'm not sure what to do with them. This article is about things that work and are reasonably recent. They get refurbed and reused.
- bena 4y agoSame here, I read the article linked elsewhere in this post hoping to find out what to do with them.
- Idiot_in_Vain 4y agoSamsung for example often has very good trade in discounts, where they take back broken smartphones. On Samsung EPP sites, sometimes there are great trade-in deals.
- fckgw 4y agoYou can still send non-functioning items back to Apple to be recycled if you want. You can take it an Apple store or go through the mail-in process. They tear them apart and salvage the parts.
- bpoyner 4y agoI still have an iPhone 3GS. It's fun to turn it on occasionally to scare the kids. Unsurprisingly some apps no longer function because they need cloud services that were discontinued.
- bradfa 4y agoWhile Back in the Box does resell some Android devices, the majority are iPhones and iPads, said its chief executive, Ari Marinovsky. A big reason is that Apple updates device software for more years than its competitors do. That seems like the key to all of it. A 2 year old iPhone (or to be fair, Google Pixel now) still has enough years of support to be worth spending hundreds of dollars on for budget minded buyers.
- isk517 4y agoSoftware no longer being updated and battery dying (and no longer worth the cost of replacement) seem to be the only reasons other than physical damage to replace a smartphone these days. Until I accidentally shattered the screen a month ago I was more than happy to stick with my Galaxy S9, my new phone is nice but other than the battery lasting the whole day and regular security updates I'm not seeing much difference from my nearly 5 year old previous phone.
- Idiot_in_Vain 4y agoNewer phones have bigger screens with higher refresh rates, far better cameras and are faster. Many people change their phone every year.
- manv1 4y agoMost people at this level don't really care about specs like higher refresh rates. They care about cost and functionality. Hundreds of millions change their phones every year, which is why there's supply for the used market. Billions of people don't change their phones every year, because they can't afford to or don't care to.
- belthesar 4y agoI think, to the GP's point though, that even though phones are having these significant tech refreshes, they're not significant enough to a growing number of end users to chase. I'm right there with him, tbh. I broke an iPhone 8's screen a couple years ago, and had to replace it. Had that phone not been damaged, I would have kept it for a couple more years.
- mig39 4y agoFor me, my old phones go to my kids. We practice "trickle-down phonenomics." My daughter currently has my old iPhone SE2. Coupled with a cheap 365-day eSIM, and it's perfect for a young teen.
- nexus7556 4y agoWhere are you picking up the eSIM?
- mig39 4y agoI use keepgo.com, but there are many other sources, depending on how much data you need. For example, my middle kid is on an eSIM from Hong Kong, on the 3HK network. https://esimdb.com https://esimdb.com is a good resource. My kids are usually on wifi at school or home, so the esim doesn't need to have much data. Just want enough to be able to text them, use "find my iPhone", etc. So a 365-day eSIM is great, and cheap. Downside for the Hong Kong sim is that TikTok doesn't work on the phone at all if it detects a Hong Kong sim. That's fine for my youngest, but it was a deal killer for the others. So now they have an eSIM from Orange in France via Keepgo. It's amazing that these eSIMs work fine in North America, and are so cheap. For Canada, especially, it's amazing I can get service for my kid for $3-$4 a month.
- gandalfian 4y agoThat is remarkably modern. But doesn't it mean you have to dial long distance to a french number to phone your child?
- mig39 4y agoWe use iMessage, FaceTime, FaceTime Audio, Discord, etc. I don't think teens (at least in this part of Canada), even know their own phone numbers, let alone make traditional voice phone calls :-)
- nexus7556 4y agoThis is great, thank you! I've mostly stuck to airalo as its all I know so its good to know there are other options.
- sys_64738 4y agoLast time I checked that Apple would only give me 30 bucks for my iPhone 6S. I felt insulted.
- extra88 4y agoWhy? The 6s is 7 1/2 years old and can't run their current iOS. Sure, with a working battery it can still be useful to somebody but it has very little remaining market value.
- sys_64738 4y ago> Why? The 6s is 7 1/2 years old and can't run their current iOS. So Apple has rigged the deck in their favor? Usually that gets a government investigation in the US.
- extra88 4y agoOh please. They support hardware for the iOS releases far longer than Android phone manufacturers do and they still release security updates for at least one previous release. If you can find someone who will pay more than $30 for your 6s, you are free to do so.