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You're right, it's both easier and simpler since no daemons are involved. podman-compose has the same command-line interface and has worked ok for me so far (ma

You're right, it's both easier and simpler since no daemons are involved. podman-compose has the same command-line interface and has worked ok for me so far (maybe 3 or 4 years at this point).

jacooper 4y ago
Podman-compose isn't fully compatible with the new compose spec. Also I really don't care if docker has a daemon or not, for me it offers feature like auto starting containers without bothering with SystemD, and auto updates using watchtower and the docker socket. And since podman doesn't have an official distro package repo like docker, you are stuck use whatever old version shipped in your distro without recent improvements, which is important for a very active development project.
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  > Also I really don't care if docker has a daemon or not, for me it offers feature like auto starting containers without bothering with SystemD Bingo, the "pain" of the daemon (it's never cause a single problem for me? Especially on Linux, on macOS I've occasionally had to go start it because it wasn't running, but BFD) saves me from having to touch systemd. Or, indeed, from caring WTF distro I'm running and which init system it uses at all.
  - jacooper 4y ago
    To be fair, every mainstream distro now uses Systemd
- indymike 4y ago
  > And since podman doesn't have an official repo like docker, Hmm... https://github.com/containers/podman https://github.com/containers/podman I found that on: https://podman.io/ https://podman.io/ so, I'm pretty sure it's official.
  - jacooper 4y ago
    I meant a a repo for a distro package manager, so you can get the latest version regardless of whatever version your distro ships.
    - fisiu 4y ago
      The most of major distros ship podman in their repositories. Just use your package manager to install podman.
      - jacooper 4y ago
        And these versions are often our of date, which is important given that podman is in active a development and you want to be using the latest version.
        tristan957 4y ago
        I don't understand what the issue is. Don't use an LTS distro if you want up to date software. Fedora and Arch are up to date for Podman. Alpine seems to be one minor version behind.
        jacooper 4y ago
        I want stability for the system and a newer podman version. I do this all the time with docker, install an LTS distro and then add the official docker repos.

You're right, it's both easier and simpler since no daemons are involved. podman-compose has the same command-line interface and has worked ok for me so far (maybe 3 or 4 years at this point).

jacooper 4y ago

Podman-compose isn't fully compatible with the new compose spec. Also I really don't care if docker has a daemon or not, for me it offers feature like auto starting containers without bothering with SystemD, and auto updates using watchtower and the docker socket. And since podman doesn't have an official distro package repo like docker, you are stuck use whatever old version shipped in your distro without recent improvements, which is important for a very active development project.

yamtaddle 4y ago
> Also I really don't care if docker has a daemon or not, for me it offers feature like auto starting containers without bothering with SystemD Bingo, the "pain" of the daemon (it's never cause a single problem for me? Especially on Linux, on macOS I've occasionally had to go start it because it wasn't running, but BFD) saves me from having to touch systemd. Or, indeed, from caring WTF distro I'm running and which init system it uses at all.
- jacooper 4y ago
  To be fair, every mainstream distro now uses Systemd
indymike 4y ago
> And since podman doesn't have an official repo like docker, Hmm... https://github.com/containers/podman https://github.com/containers/podman I found that on: https://podman.io/ https://podman.io/ so, I'm pretty sure it's official.
- jacooper 4y ago
  I meant a a repo for a distro package manager, so you can get the latest version regardless of whatever version your distro ships.
  - fisiu 4y ago
    The most of major distros ship podman in their repositories. Just use your package manager to install podman.
    - jacooper 4y ago
      And these versions are often our of date, which is important given that podman is in active a development and you want to be using the latest version.
      - tristan957 4y ago
        I don't understand what the issue is. Don't use an LTS distro if you want up to date software. Fedora and Arch are up to date for Podman. Alpine seems to be one minor version behind.
        jacooper 4y ago
        I want stability for the system and a newer podman version. I do this all the time with docker, install an LTS distro and then add the official docker repos.