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No. I think we need to do that regardless of whether their art will or won't be worth something. I don't think my open source stuff is every going to be worth
by kaoD 4y ago
No. I think we need to do that regardless of whether their art will or won't be worth something.
I don't think my open source stuff is every going to be worth a penny. I still want it to be protected so that its license is respected. Mine, and everyone else's.
- rglullis 4y agoCopyright law does not stop bad actors. The fact that you (and I) wish it was respected does not change things in any practical way.
- kaoD 4y ago> Copyright law does not stop bad actors. Yes it does.
- rglullis 4y agoBack in 2005, way before Huawei was known as a smartphone manufacturer, I was working at an R&D office focused on phone networks in Brazil. I went to a meeting with one of our clients that was just signing with us. The main reason that he was contracting with us was, I quote, "the last time we went to China we found a Huawei rep making a demo of an application that worked exactly like ours - which was meant to run on Cisco gear. Even the terminal escape sequences to get to debugging mode was the same. The Chinese were stealing from us and there was absolutely nothing we could do about it." Copyright law might be enough of a deterrent to make Joe Nobody pay $9.99 to Netflix instead of torrenting movies, and (on occasion) it may be enough to force some high-profile artist to give credit to some other lesser known musician who "served as inspiration". Outside of that, copyright law is as effective to "stop bad actors" as the "War on Drugs" is effective to stop organized crime and drug trafficking.
- Dalewyn 4y agoCopyright laws rely on enforcement, which China couldn't give a rat's ass about. Brazil, however, clearly does, and your employer at the time earned a new client because of copyright laws that will hopefully protect the client.
- rglullis 4y agoIf that was true, people in Brazil wouldn't be pirating movies as much as they do, and there wouldn't be computer shops in downtown São Paulo selling cracked copies of Windows to small/medium business like they still do.
- kaoD 4y agoSo following your logic we should decriminalize murders since, well, those still happen anyways.
- rglullis 4y agoI am for decriminalizing copyright infringement, yes, but congratulations on the midwit argument that equates copyright infringement with murder.
- kaoD 4y agoSo following your logic we should decriminalize <everything> since, well, <everything> still happens anyways.
- rglullis 4y agoCan you please stop with the "so you are saying that..."? Not only is a poor form of conversation, it makes you look like you are being dishonest or an idiot. Or both. Let me spell it out: I think that the cost of trying to police "copyright violations" far outweighs any of the potential losses and damages that might be incurred for losing such "protections". This is not the case for murder. The cost of life is incalculable, so any measures to prevent loss of life is justifiable. Laws that try to protect citizens from physical harm and are meant to preserve human life are of a completely different nature than "copyright violation". It's perfectly reasonable to argue for decriminalization of copyright infringement without having to accept that anything should be decriminalized. To go further: I see no moral justification to have copyright infringement as a violation worthy of criminal persecution. I believe that "intellectual property" is a misnomer and I think that any type of current laws are meant only to protect large corporations and are not made with the best interests of society in general. Is that enough for you, or are you going to continue pushing false slippery slopes?