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You’d be right if Docker Desktop wasn’t still the first class way to get Linux containers with nice file mapping/networking/etc. on Windows and macOS. I do not

by girvo 4y ago

You’d be right if Docker Desktop wasn’t still the first class way to get Linux containers with nice file mapping/networking/etc. on Windows and macOS. I do not miss the days of running my own Xhyve based virtual machine and all of the pain and horrible performance that came with it.

toyg 4y ago
Docker Desktop is not that valuable, docker exploded before that even existed. In fact, it's probably the easiest bit of Docker to clone. The real value is in the repository, dockerfiles, and the deployment practices they enabled.
- girvo 4y ago
  Docker Desktop is absolutely valuable. It might seem easy to clone, and yet Rancher/Podman Desktops aren’t even close to feature parity and the deep integration with other tools that Docker Desktop has, sadly. Not yet anyway. I’m hopeful these dumb decisions light some fires under some bums to get that work done.
  - toyg 4y ago
    It is valuable, just not that valuable. It is not their moat. Their moat is the mountain of dockerfiles out there, referencing thousands of images in Docker's repo. Nobody wants to redo all that work (repo setup, scripts, and images) if they can avoid it. That's the silliness of this move: they are forcing people to pay up or do that work. People will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid paying, so there is a serious risk that they will do the work; and once they're gone, they're gone.
Tostino 4y ago
Rancher Desktop has been just fine for me.
- girvo 4y ago
  Lucky, we ran into a heap of issues with it. Might be worth another try though, hopefully it can work well with VSCode remote containers and usbipd on Windows.
  - Tostino 4y ago
    I've been using it daily since Docker Desktop license change and won't say I haven't run into issues from time to time (waking from sleep on Windows for example). But overall, it's been solid and worked well for me. I use it with IntelliJ IDEA, can't speak for VSCode.
    - girvo 4y ago
      I’ll have another crack at it this evening I think!

by girvo 4y ago

toyg 4y ago

Docker Desktop is not that valuable, docker exploded before that even existed. In fact, it's probably the easiest bit of Docker to clone. The real value is in the repository, dockerfiles, and the deployment practices they enabled.

girvo 4y ago
Docker Desktop is absolutely valuable. It might seem easy to clone, and yet Rancher/Podman Desktops aren’t even close to feature parity and the deep integration with other tools that Docker Desktop has, sadly. Not yet anyway. I’m hopeful these dumb decisions light some fires under some bums to get that work done.
- toyg 4y ago
  It is valuable, just not that valuable. It is not their moat. Their moat is the mountain of dockerfiles out there, referencing thousands of images in Docker's repo. Nobody wants to redo all that work (repo setup, scripts, and images) if they can avoid it. That's the silliness of this move: they are forcing people to pay up or do that work. People will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid paying, so there is a serious risk that they will do the work; and once they're gone, they're gone.

Tostino 4y ago

Rancher Desktop has been just fine for me.

girvo 4y ago
Lucky, we ran into a heap of issues with it. Might be worth another try though, hopefully it can work well with VSCode remote containers and usbipd on Windows.
- Tostino 4y ago
  I've been using it daily since Docker Desktop license change and won't say I haven't run into issues from time to time (waking from sleep on Windows for example). But overall, it's been solid and worked well for me. I use it with IntelliJ IDEA, can't speak for VSCode.
  - girvo 4y ago
    I’ll have another crack at it this evening I think!