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I am usually an early adopter but I keep coming back to Docker since Podman is still very rough around the edges, especially in terms of "non-direct" usage (aka

I am usually an early adopter but I keep coming back to Docker since Podman is still very rough around the edges, especially in terms of "non-direct" usage (aka other tools)

vladvasiliu 4y ago
As someone who's been bitten by this, I'm not sure if it's an issue with podman itself as much as the tools which expect docker. It could be argued that podman is not a docker drop-in replacement, but I expect more and more tools to pick it up.
- laserlight 4y ago
  > It could be argued that podman is not a docker drop-in replacement This is an unfortunate part IMHO. podman is not a docker drop-in replacement, but it is advertised as such.
  - evilduck 4y ago
    Besides the advertising, it's very close to being a drop-in replacement but their pace isn't closing that gap quick enough (or maybe they don't want to, or it isn't possible, idk I'm just a user) so you get a false sense of confidence doing the simple stuff before you run into a parity problem.
  - actionfromafar 4y ago
    Worth remembering is that Docker supports Windows containers. That’s a hard requirement for many enterprises.
- Kye 4y ago
  Is this a matter of developers constantly relearning the lesson of the folly of only supporting the current top thing, or is it a lot harder to support more than one?
  - vladvasiliu 4y ago
    I don't know how "hard" it is, but in my particular case I wanted to use this from intellij. It actually works, but the issue is that the docker emulation socket isn't where the ide expects it, and I haven't found a way to tell it where to look for. Once I simlinked the socket, everything worked.
    - yrro 4y ago
      This worked for me: Connect to Docker Daemon with -> TCP Socket -> Engine API URL -> unix:///run/user/$UID/podman/podman.sock
  - orthoxerox 4y ago
    The devil is in the details. For example, docker has a DNS service at 127.0.0.11 it injects into /etc/resolv.conf, while podman injects domain names of your network into /etc/hosts. Nginx requires a real DNS service for its `resolver` configuration.
throwawaymanbot 4y ago
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I am usually an early adopter but I keep coming back to Docker since Podman is still very rough around the edges, especially in terms of "non-direct" usage (aka other tools)

vladvasiliu 4y ago

As someone who's been bitten by this, I'm not sure if it's an issue with podman itself as much as the tools which expect docker. It could be argued that podman is not a docker drop-in replacement, but I expect more and more tools to pick it up.

laserlight 4y ago
> It could be argued that podman is not a docker drop-in replacement This is an unfortunate part IMHO. podman is not a docker drop-in replacement, but it is advertised as such.
- evilduck 4y ago
  Besides the advertising, it's very close to being a drop-in replacement but their pace isn't closing that gap quick enough (or maybe they don't want to, or it isn't possible, idk I'm just a user) so you get a false sense of confidence doing the simple stuff before you run into a parity problem.
- actionfromafar 4y ago
  Worth remembering is that Docker supports Windows containers. That’s a hard requirement for many enterprises.
Kye 4y ago
Is this a matter of developers constantly relearning the lesson of the folly of only supporting the current top thing, or is it a lot harder to support more than one?
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  I don't know how "hard" it is, but in my particular case I wanted to use this from intellij. It actually works, but the issue is that the docker emulation socket isn't where the ide expects it, and I haven't found a way to tell it where to look for. Once I simlinked the socket, everything worked.
  - yrro 4y ago
    This worked for me: Connect to Docker Daemon with -> TCP Socket -> Engine API URL -> unix:///run/user/$UID/podman/podman.sock
- orthoxerox 4y ago
  The devil is in the details. For example, docker has a DNS service at 127.0.0.11 it injects into /etc/resolv.conf, while podman injects domain names of your network into /etc/hosts. Nginx requires a real DNS service for its `resolver` configuration.

throwawaymanbot 4y ago

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