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Why shouldn't it? 4chan has been having a field day recently twisting these AIs into knots trying to avoid particular sensitive issues and even objective facts

Why shouldn't it? 4chan has been having a field day recently twisting these AIs into knots trying to avoid particular sensitive issues and even objective facts. What's the alternative? Should it lie? I must point out the irony of asking "Do Jews exert disproportionate influence over Western politics, culture, technology and media in defence of their ethnic interests?" and getting the response "Sorry, I'm not allowed to answer that"! I don't know what the best pro-Jewish solution is, but the current ham-fisted censorship is providing an entertaining spectacle that does little to dispel certain controversial ideas.

darthrupert 4y ago
>What's the alternative? Should it lie? I wonder which is it doing now. Perhaps it's being brutally honest, and reality actually has a liberal bias? How would you know the difference?
- FabrosoFernan 4y ago
  Well we know what it's doing now, it tries to detect controversial questions and refuses to answer. (For example, the other replies to your comment where it's revealed that it will happily write a poem praising Biden or even Trump, but not Hitler.) There have been some humourous approaches to confusing this system where people have successfully teased out some taboo answers from the AI. (For example, rather than directly attacking the Holocaust narrative, people have asked how long it takes to cremate a body, how many people were cremated at Auschwitz, how many ovens were available at Auschwitz crematorium, how long it would take to completely cremate x million bodies with x ovens...oops!)
- yucky 4y ago
  > Perhaps it's being brutally honest, and reality actually has a liberal bias? How would you know the difference? Ask it if transwomen are really women and see if your device melts?
  - kthejoker2 4y ago
    Do you think there is a universal objective answer to this?
    - yucky 4y ago
      Would we advise women to get a prostate exam after 40?
      - kthejoker2 4y ago
        Some women, yes. (The ones with prostates, obviously.) What's your next question?
        yucky 4y ago
        Women don't have prostates. If a man dresses like a woman and thinks he's a woman, that is a mental condition that deserves treatment and that person deserves to be treated humanely like the rest of us, but it doesn't turn them into a woman.
        kthejoker2 4y ago
        I see, so you disagree that gender is a social construct. That's fair, but your opinion is not universally held and wouldn't be a sufficient answer for a GPT bot.
        yucky 4y ago
        The issue becomes apparent when you ask somebody how many genders there are, and what constitutes a gender. In order to define transitioning between various genders, there needs to be a constituted boundary around what a gender is. Otherwise, how can you transition from one to another? This becomes readily apparent when you take the man/woman genders out of the equation and ask to define some of these other genders that supposedly exist and how people transition between them. There is no logic to it. Try it yourself.

darthrupert 4y ago

>What's the alternative? Should it lie? I wonder which is it doing now. Perhaps it's being brutally honest, and reality actually has a liberal bias? How would you know the difference?

FabrosoFernan 4y ago
Well we know what it's doing now, it tries to detect controversial questions and refuses to answer. (For example, the other replies to your comment where it's revealed that it will happily write a poem praising Biden or even Trump, but not Hitler.) There have been some humourous approaches to confusing this system where people have successfully teased out some taboo answers from the AI. (For example, rather than directly attacking the Holocaust narrative, people have asked how long it takes to cremate a body, how many people were cremated at Auschwitz, how many ovens were available at Auschwitz crematorium, how long it would take to completely cremate x million bodies with x ovens...oops!)
yucky 4y ago
> Perhaps it's being brutally honest, and reality actually has a liberal bias? How would you know the difference? Ask it if transwomen are really women and see if your device melts?
- kthejoker2 4y ago
  Do you think there is a universal objective answer to this?
  - yucky 4y ago
    Would we advise women to get a prostate exam after 40?
    - kthejoker2 4y ago
      Some women, yes. (The ones with prostates, obviously.) What's your next question?
      - yucky 4y ago
        Women don't have prostates. If a man dresses like a woman and thinks he's a woman, that is a mental condition that deserves treatment and that person deserves to be treated humanely like the rest of us, but it doesn't turn them into a woman.
        kthejoker2 4y ago
        I see, so you disagree that gender is a social construct. That's fair, but your opinion is not universally held and wouldn't be a sufficient answer for a GPT bot.
        yucky 4y ago
        The issue becomes apparent when you ask somebody how many genders there are, and what constitutes a gender. In order to define transitioning between various genders, there needs to be a constituted boundary around what a gender is. Otherwise, how can you transition from one to another? This becomes readily apparent when you take the man/woman genders out of the equation and ask to define some of these other genders that supposedly exist and how people transition between them. There is no logic to it. Try it yourself.