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The biggest catch is that you're getting more desktop-grade hardware than server-grade (notice Intel's i series instead of Xeon, non-ECC RAM). Doesn't make a lo

The biggest catch is that you're getting more desktop-grade hardware than server-grade (notice Intel's i series instead of Xeon, non-ECC RAM). Doesn't make a lot of difference for the vast majority of use cases, but something to keep in mind. You can get server-grade hardware from them, but then the pricing difference isn't so significant when compared to other providers.

silksowed 4y ago
i really wonder how they are housing the desktop grade hardware. im so used to rack and stack servers (1U/2U), but do you really need that big of a chassis for a desktop cpu, a couple ram dimm's and some ssd? what are you're thoughts?
- Strom 4y ago
  They have ATX cases on shelves. You can take a look at this tour of their datacenter [1] for more insight. ATX cases are visible around the 3 minute mark. -- [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM
mdasen 4y ago
If you go with their AMD servers, you'll get ECC RAM which would be the main sticking point for me. ECC memory will be €5.50 extra on their €37 Ryzen 5 3600 (6 core, 12 thread) 64GB RAM server. Even at €43 with EEC RAM, it's still a great deal. It even comes with 2x512 GB NVMe storage. Yes, non-ECC RAM is an issue, but that's easily upgraded on their AMD servers. For €63 you'll get a Ryzen 7 7700 (Zen 4, 8 core, 16 thread) box with 64GB ECC RAM and 2x1TB NVMe SSDs. Google Cloud's N2D-Standard-16 with 8 cores (16 vCPU threads, Zen 2 or Zen 3), 64GB ECC RAM, and no storage costs $550/mo. Yes, it's may not be a perfect comparison, but it's also 8x the price - oh, and Google will charge you $0.085/GB for bandwidth that Hetzner throws in for free. Even Google's Spot Pricing is more than double the cost. I do agree that non-ECC RAM is an issue, but if you're willing to go with AMD servers, it becomes a very cheap issue to fix.

silksowed 4y ago

i really wonder how they are housing the desktop grade hardware. im so used to rack and stack servers (1U/2U), but do you really need that big of a chassis for a desktop cpu, a couple ram dimm's and some ssd? what are you're thoughts?

Strom 4y ago
They have ATX cases on shelves. You can take a look at this tour of their datacenter [1] for more insight. ATX cases are visible around the 3 minute mark. -- [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM

mdasen 4y ago

If you go with their AMD servers, you'll get ECC RAM which would be the main sticking point for me. ECC memory will be €5.50 extra on their €37 Ryzen 5 3600 (6 core, 12 thread) 64GB RAM server. Even at €43 with EEC RAM, it's still a great deal. It even comes with 2x512 GB NVMe storage. Yes, non-ECC RAM is an issue, but that's easily upgraded on their AMD servers. For €63 you'll get a Ryzen 7 7700 (Zen 4, 8 core, 16 thread) box with 64GB ECC RAM and 2x1TB NVMe SSDs. Google Cloud's N2D-Standard-16 with 8 cores (16 vCPU threads, Zen 2 or Zen 3), 64GB ECC RAM, and no storage costs $550/mo. Yes, it's may not be a perfect comparison, but it's also 8x the price - oh, and Google will charge you $0.085/GB for bandwidth that Hetzner throws in for free. Even Google's Spot Pricing is more than double the cost. I do agree that non-ECC RAM is an issue, but if you're willing to go with AMD servers, it becomes a very cheap issue to fix.