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Recently moved some workloads from GCP to a dedicated Hetzner box with 12900k, 128GB ram and 2TB NVME raid. This thing SCREAMS, running e.g Postgres with the sa

Recently moved some workloads from GCP to a dedicated Hetzner box with 12900k, 128GB ram and 2TB NVME raid. This thing SCREAMS, running e.g Postgres with the same capacity in GCP would probbably cost > $1k/mo. Hetzner takes around 120 EUR. Also the bandwidht is like 10x cheaper with much larger free tier.

qeternity 4y ago
> Also the bandwidht is like 10x cheaper with much larger free tier. Hetzner bare metal have unlimited bandwidth.
- nikanj 4y ago
  The downside is your neighbours also having unlimited bandwidth. We had to rebuild one Citrix environment to a different (identical) box, because the first was in a network segment with terrible network performance. If you pull a short straw, your box will be sharing bandwidth with a few bittorrent seed boxes or someone’s video CDN node
  - Nextgrid 4y ago
    For anything bandwidth-sensitive that can’t be spread out across multiple nodes I’d shell out for the 10Gbit option which is still reasonably priced and still includes 20TB of free bandwidth.
  - BonoboIO 4y ago
    Dedicated or Cloud?
pirsquare 4y ago
And you will get proper customer support with Hetzner
0xDEF 4y ago
All the old European VPS/dedicated server providers are cheaper than Big Cloud.
vidyesh 4y ago
I think most times the horror stories and complexities of DevOps from the past (which likely paved the path for convenient cloud providers) is what keeps people away from running their own servers. That being said, I run much smaller projects and servers and have not worked at a scale that really requires heavy workloads that generates thousands of monthly bills at GCP. So I think most devs being conditioned to start their first projects on the free-tiers of most cloud providers makes it really difficult for them to move to their own servers when they need it.
- efxhoy 4y ago
  Absolutely. I'm pretty new to infra and I learned in our big company AWS environment. I've dabbled a bit with home servers and stuff but I have no idea how to manage a bare metal host "properly".

qeternity 4y ago

> Also the bandwidht is like 10x cheaper with much larger free tier. Hetzner bare metal have unlimited bandwidth.

nikanj 4y ago
The downside is your neighbours also having unlimited bandwidth. We had to rebuild one Citrix environment to a different (identical) box, because the first was in a network segment with terrible network performance. If you pull a short straw, your box will be sharing bandwidth with a few bittorrent seed boxes or someone’s video CDN node
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  For anything bandwidth-sensitive that can’t be spread out across multiple nodes I’d shell out for the 10Gbit option which is still reasonably priced and still includes 20TB of free bandwidth.
- BonoboIO 4y ago
  Dedicated or Cloud?

pirsquare 4y ago

And you will get proper customer support with Hetzner

0xDEF 4y ago

All the old European VPS/dedicated server providers are cheaper than Big Cloud.

vidyesh 4y ago

I think most times the horror stories and complexities of DevOps from the past (which likely paved the path for convenient cloud providers) is what keeps people away from running their own servers. That being said, I run much smaller projects and servers and have not worked at a scale that really requires heavy workloads that generates thousands of monthly bills at GCP. So I think most devs being conditioned to start their first projects on the free-tiers of most cloud providers makes it really difficult for them to move to their own servers when they need it.

efxhoy 4y ago
Absolutely. I'm pretty new to infra and I learned in our big company AWS environment. I've dabbled a bit with home servers and stuff but I have no idea how to manage a bare metal host "properly".