I think it's an accurate assessment. I live in NYC, and most neighborhood bars are not crowded and noisy as hell. However, if I go to a "destination" for out-o

I think it's an accurate assessment. I live in NYC, and most neighborhood bars are not crowded and noisy as hell. However, if I go to a "destination" for out-of-towners[1], then yes: it's packed, noisy, and insufferable. Same thing with traffic -- most of the personal automobile traffic in the cities comes from commuters that don't live here. [1] I was trying really hard not to say "bridge and tunnel" ...