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For centuries, people have advocated for systems where workers keep the fruits of their labors rather than have them appropriated by those with the ownership. T
by SaberTail 4y ago
For centuries, people have advocated for systems where workers keep the fruits of their labors rather than have them appropriated by those with the ownership. They're called "communists" and "socialists".
- DeathArrow 4y agoAnd communism was such a massive success story with tens of millions of victims...
- Spivak 4y agoThis is such a pointless discussion. If the economic and political atrocities that occurred under capitalism were listed out it would make the book on communism look like a pamphlet. Shitty people doing shitty things can and will happen under every economic and political system. If you let people convince you that trying to break the cycle of worker exploitation by changing our literally feudalist corporate structure in any way is a one way ticket to the gulag then the only thing that will happen is you’ll be happier with the lot in life that’s been decided for you.
- corbulo 4y agoFirst: define capitalism Second: list famines
- gooseus 4y agoYes, history remembers well the efforts of those people, and their results. And if you define who counts as "workers" and who the "owners" are just so, you can also add "fascist" to the list of people who advocate for a similar system (national socialists). It's almost as if rhetoric that promises "workers" a way to take back the fruits of their labor from evil "owners" is a really great way for populist demagogues (on either side) to whip up a Revolution that installs a new groups of oligarchs as a central Party apparatus that effectively owns everything... on behalf of the Workers, of course.
- kevviiinn 4y agoFascism by definition is not aligned with workers, it is aligned purely with the interests of corporations and capital owners