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> Nobody is going to "generate training data" if they get precisely nothing out of it. What? What do you call literally the entire training dataset of stable d

> Nobody is going to "generate training data" if they get precisely nothing out of it. What? What do you call literally the entire training dataset of stable diffusion, dalle, gpt3, and gpt4? You think they compensated anyone that went into the dataset? Did you get paid for your comment, because guess what? Your comment will end up in the gpt4.1 or gpt5 model. Training data will likely continue to include everything public on the internet. Not everyone will stop posting things online for free, therefore humans will still generate training data for models.

ipaddr 4y ago
Soon we get content created for gpt and introduce a new level of spam.
Dalewyn 4y ago
You know what people treated like shit do? They go find greener pastures to spend their lives in, taking any of their benefits to humanity with them. Sure, random comments of insignificant value like these will probably continue being created. Valuable content, though? That's a different story. "This is why we can't have nice things." is a saying that accurately reflects what could happen if the "AI" community doesn't stop behaving like uncivilized barbarians. Personally, I'd prefer to have nice things.
- ShamelessC 4y ago
  Why are you putting AI in quotes, out of curiosity? My priors tell me that great art will continue to be made, both with and without these new tools; and that people will simply re-adjust to a new normal of sorts. What are you suggesting exactly? That all the creators are so weak-willed that they simply stop creating? Or are you implying that they are going to all go live on some sort of "no-internet-allowed" island together?
  - Dalewyn 4y ago
    >Why are you putting AI in quotes, out of curiosity? Because it's not intelligent. It's definitely artificial, but it's not intelligent in any meaningful sense of the term. "Automatic Interpolation" or something similar would be a far more suitable use for the acronym. >What are you suggesting exactly? Noone is going to spend time making something if the next guy immediately goes "You made this? ... I made this." like clockwork. Even moreso if someone was making something professionally. If we do see creators and inventors go away, it would be because of their own volition and desire to find greener pastures worthy of their time rather than "AI" usurping their jobs.
    - stale2002 4y ago
      > Noone is going to spend time making something Yes they will. Not everyone is like you who will collapse into anger and outrage at the thought of other people creating new things based on your work. I do not care if anyone uses any of my intellectual property that I have ever created. In fact, I would be flattered if people use the stuff that I have built to them make newer cooler things. I support anyone and everyone "stealing" any intellectual property that I have every created.
      - Dalewyn 4y ago
        Good for you; unfortunately, you don't speak for everyone. Particularly those who create things for a living.
        stale2002 4y ago
        I didn't say there I speak for everyone. Instead I am refuting your completely false statement of"Noone is going to spend time making something" that I was responding to. So great, you agree with me that yes there are people like me who will continue to produce intellectual property and release it to the public. > Particularly those who create things for a living. I create things for a living to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. So yes, I speak, at least partily, for those people and am totally fine with people stealing my work.
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- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  By all means. Let them take their nice things and go away if they must. We'll be right here on the other side freely exploring the limits of technology.
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ipaddr 4y ago

Soon we get content created for gpt and introduce a new level of spam.

Dalewyn 4y ago

You know what people treated like shit do? They go find greener pastures to spend their lives in, taking any of their benefits to humanity with them. Sure, random comments of insignificant value like these will probably continue being created. Valuable content, though? That's a different story. "This is why we can't have nice things." is a saying that accurately reflects what could happen if the "AI" community doesn't stop behaving like uncivilized barbarians. Personally, I'd prefer to have nice things.

ShamelessC 4y ago
Why are you putting AI in quotes, out of curiosity? My priors tell me that great art will continue to be made, both with and without these new tools; and that people will simply re-adjust to a new normal of sorts. What are you suggesting exactly? That all the creators are so weak-willed that they simply stop creating? Or are you implying that they are going to all go live on some sort of "no-internet-allowed" island together?
- Dalewyn 4y ago
  >Why are you putting AI in quotes, out of curiosity? Because it's not intelligent. It's definitely artificial, but it's not intelligent in any meaningful sense of the term. "Automatic Interpolation" or something similar would be a far more suitable use for the acronym. >What are you suggesting exactly? Noone is going to spend time making something if the next guy immediately goes "You made this? ... I made this." like clockwork. Even moreso if someone was making something professionally. If we do see creators and inventors go away, it would be because of their own volition and desire to find greener pastures worthy of their time rather than "AI" usurping their jobs.
  - stale2002 4y ago
    > Noone is going to spend time making something Yes they will. Not everyone is like you who will collapse into anger and outrage at the thought of other people creating new things based on your work. I do not care if anyone uses any of my intellectual property that I have ever created. In fact, I would be flattered if people use the stuff that I have built to them make newer cooler things. I support anyone and everyone "stealing" any intellectual property that I have every created.
    - Dalewyn 4y ago
      Good for you; unfortunately, you don't speak for everyone. Particularly those who create things for a living.
      - stale2002 4y ago
        I didn't say there I speak for everyone. Instead I am refuting your completely false statement of"Noone is going to spend time making something" that I was responding to. So great, you agree with me that yes there are people like me who will continue to produce intellectual property and release it to the public. > Particularly those who create things for a living. I create things for a living to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. So yes, I speak, at least partily, for those people and am totally fine with people stealing my work.
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matheusmoreira 4y ago
By all means. Let them take their nice things and go away if they must. We'll be right here on the other side freely exploring the limits of technology.
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