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Another angle that others have not mentioned is the similarity in outcome and experience between psychedelics and deep, extended mediation practice. The snooti

Another angle that others have not mentioned is the similarity in outcome and experience between psychedelics and deep, extended mediation practice. The snootier mediation folks will dismiss psychedelics as a shortcut while still agreeing about the experience and outcome. As other replies have pointed out, the similarity is that both options enable an individual to examine and even change their perceptions. The meditation method is slower and gives the brain a lot of time and support for adjusting to this new perception. The drugs may or may not.

mettamage 4y ago
> The meditation method is slower and gives the brain a lot of time and support for adjusting to this new perception. False sense of security right here. This is a necessary but not sufficient condition, Speaking from experience. I tried both, I still meditate. I feel psilocybin is definitely more dangerous but the insanity that meditation can bring can be very dangerous as well (in my case flared up narcissism that was about to express itself as very deep painful comments to my closest family, thankfully I kept my mouth shut. And not recognizing myself in the mirror). This was after a retreat and 3 hours of practice for one month, while also not being able to embed meditation in my philosophical framework. So I experimented with not thinking at all and just experiencing sensations on my body. I got so good at both that it got me crazy. I use more common sense nowadays :) Though truffles takes the cake: seeing your SO believing you’re gonna end her life and me running after her to keep her safe and hugging her for 10 minutes straight saying “I love you” until she finally believed me, that was scary as hell. In the end it was a positive experience, but that moment wasn’t riskless and showed me the importance of a tripsitter

mettamage 4y ago

> The meditation method is slower and gives the brain a lot of time and support for adjusting to this new perception. False sense of security right here. This is a necessary but not sufficient condition, Speaking from experience. I tried both, I still meditate. I feel psilocybin is definitely more dangerous but the insanity that meditation can bring can be very dangerous as well (in my case flared up narcissism that was about to express itself as very deep painful comments to my closest family, thankfully I kept my mouth shut. And not recognizing myself in the mirror). This was after a retreat and 3 hours of practice for one month, while also not being able to embed meditation in my philosophical framework. So I experimented with not thinking at all and just experiencing sensations on my body. I got so good at both that it got me crazy. I use more common sense nowadays :) Though truffles takes the cake: seeing your SO believing you’re gonna end her life and me running after her to keep her safe and hugging her for 10 minutes straight saying “I love you” until she finally believed me, that was scary as hell. In the end it was a positive experience, but that moment wasn’t riskless and showed me the importance of a tripsitter