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He's excited to bring the future to people and often overestimates the capabilities of existing technology and how fast things can be improved. Again, in good f

He's excited to bring the future to people and often overestimates the capabilities of existing technology and how fast things can be improved. Again, in good faith, and has often derided his past self on how overly optimistic his past predictions are. > In reality Teslas can't even park themselves A ten second youtube search shows several recent videos showing it working just fine. > In reality the older Teslas now won't get Hardware 4 The second link does not disagree with the first. Hardware 4 is not necessary for FSD, and has been officially stated as such in multiple places, including in the article you yourself provided. There was never any promises that hardware 3 would be capable of being retrofitted to hardware 4. In the same investor's call hardware 5 was talked about as well.

clouddrover 4y ago
> He's excited to bring the future to people Is he? Is that why he spends his time falsely claiming cave divers are paedophiles and why he publicly mocks people with muscular dystrophy? > and often overestimates the capabilities of existing technology So what you're saying is he bullshits and he lies. You do appear to be fully bought in to the Musk Mythology. At this point the only person who can help you see the more simple (and uglier) Musk Reality is you. It will be a hard road for you.
- mlindner 4y ago
  If you're not going to try to engage in reasonable discussions I'm not going to continue to respond. The first event is ancient history and started with a public personal attack by said individual against Musk, and the second Musk apologized for as he was misinformed by others. > So what you're saying is he bullshits and he lies. No that's not what I said. Please follow hacker news guidelines. > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    > I'm not going to continue to respond. And yet you have. > The first event is ancient history and started with a public personal attack by said individual against Musk It's the reputation Musk has earnt for himself. He wanted it. He sought it out. He has it. > and the second Musk apologized for as he was misinformed by others Sure, sure. It's always someone else's fault. > No that's not what I said That's exactly what you said. Musk will never act in good faith or with honesty. But I expect better from you.

clouddrover 4y ago

> He's excited to bring the future to people Is he? Is that why he spends his time falsely claiming cave divers are paedophiles and why he publicly mocks people with muscular dystrophy? > and often overestimates the capabilities of existing technology So what you're saying is he bullshits and he lies. You do appear to be fully bought in to the Musk Mythology. At this point the only person who can help you see the more simple (and uglier) Musk Reality is you. It will be a hard road for you.

mlindner 4y ago
If you're not going to try to engage in reasonable discussions I'm not going to continue to respond. The first event is ancient history and started with a public personal attack by said individual against Musk, and the second Musk apologized for as he was misinformed by others. > So what you're saying is he bullshits and he lies. No that's not what I said. Please follow hacker news guidelines. > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- clouddrover 4y ago
  > I'm not going to continue to respond. And yet you have. > The first event is ancient history and started with a public personal attack by said individual against Musk It's the reputation Musk has earnt for himself. He wanted it. He sought it out. He has it. > and the second Musk apologized for as he was misinformed by others Sure, sure. It's always someone else's fault. > No that's not what I said That's exactly what you said. Musk will never act in good faith or with honesty. But I expect better from you.