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Once per year promotions seems rough. If it is denied for some reason you can’t try again in 1-2 quarters. Although maybe that is a good way to prevent people f

Once per year promotions seems rough. If it is denied for some reason you can’t try again in 1-2 quarters. Although maybe that is a good way to prevent people from creating promotion oriented systems (ask POS).

coredog64 4y ago
AIUI, Amazon L7 and up is once per year. Clearly that’s not the answer for promotion-driven-development.
- potatolicious 4y ago
  I'm not convinced there is a way to solve promo-driven development. People will do what is individually incentivized. What is more interesting is if there is a way to align promotions with stuff that's good for the company. The issue isn't that people want to get promoted, it's that they get promoted to do things that are negative for the company!
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briandear 4y ago
You can get promoted mid-year at Apple.
mysterydip 4y ago
> Once per year promotions seems rough. That seems to have been the standard for every job I've ever had, across disciplines and sectors. I assume this is not the norm in silicon valley?
- esrauch 4y ago
  Most of the other big tech cos have promotion windows twice a year at least.
  - junofan 4y ago
    Doesn’t Apple only really have like… 3 levels? Twice a year feels like overkill.
- Jagerbizzle 4y ago
  At the big tech I work at there's a promo window every 3 months.
- cowsandmilk 4y ago
  Most tech companies are quarterly for junior positions and twice a year for senior positions.
q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 4y ago
I can assure you that it just creates higher-stakes promotion-oriented systems, with everything unfolding as a slow-motion multi-month (or multi-year) narrative.
imadethis 4y ago
Even so, you can be promoted mid-cycle in orgs like this. My team opened up a senior eng slot at the 6 month mark and had a team member apply. Counted as an internal job transfer rather than a promotion.
astrange 4y ago
This is about the yearly performance bonus, not the promotion package.

coredog64 4y ago

AIUI, Amazon L7 and up is once per year. Clearly that’s not the answer for promotion-driven-development.

potatolicious 4y ago
I'm not convinced there is a way to solve promo-driven development. People will do what is individually incentivized. What is more interesting is if there is a way to align promotions with stuff that's good for the company. The issue isn't that people want to get promoted, it's that they get promoted to do things that are negative for the company!
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briandear 4y ago

You can get promoted mid-year at Apple.

mysterydip 4y ago

> Once per year promotions seems rough. That seems to have been the standard for every job I've ever had, across disciplines and sectors. I assume this is not the norm in silicon valley?

esrauch 4y ago
Most of the other big tech cos have promotion windows twice a year at least.
- junofan 4y ago
  Doesn’t Apple only really have like… 3 levels? Twice a year feels like overkill.
Jagerbizzle 4y ago
At the big tech I work at there's a promo window every 3 months.
cowsandmilk 4y ago
Most tech companies are quarterly for junior positions and twice a year for senior positions.

q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 4y ago

I can assure you that it just creates higher-stakes promotion-oriented systems, with everything unfolding as a slow-motion multi-month (or multi-year) narrative.

imadethis 4y ago

Even so, you can be promoted mid-cycle in orgs like this. My team opened up a senior eng slot at the 6 month mark and had a team member apply. Counted as an internal job transfer rather than a promotion.

astrange 4y ago

This is about the yearly performance bonus, not the promotion package.