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The question I ask is, why do you need a boss when you have an LLM ? People seem to have this image of themselves being fired and just going home to die while t

The question I ask is, why do you need a boss when you have an LLM ? People seem to have this image of themselves being fired and just going home to die while the LLMs are being promoted and going out for dinner with their new boss. As an engineer, if I can outsource the coding part of my job, I don’t need a manger anymore as I can use LLMs to build my own Microsoft. It goes both ways. I might even be able to use the LLM to replace the need for working ? We understand how to build LLMs Open AI has months before competition springs up and begins costs down and more people have access to this technology.

pixl97 4y ago
> why do you need a boss when you have an LLM Because you still need capital to do all these things you're talking about. Compute time isn't free, and you still need to eat. People that have capital and work together will build up better systems faster and capitalize their network connections to sell products better while you're still typing away on your computer.
- ChatGTP 4y ago
  I'm not suggesting you work on your own exactly, I'm saying that 10-20 out of work software engineers could probably do a lot of damage to existing corporations including Microsoft by building their own LLM against them to build as good, or better products. People are assigning almost super natural ability to ChatGPT 4 already based on the demo video. If that exists, there's little to no reason why I couldn't use ChatGPT 4 to help me build my own more efficient ChatGPT 5. At this point, I probably won't need a "manager", I'll be managing my own stuff. You're right I'd need to eat, but I'm sure a lot of people on HN have a years worth of savings to get started building new things. There would probably be also a lot of VCs who have no where else to put their money, at least initially. That or these LLMs aren't actually as capable as advertised, even if they are impressive and mostly we're talking about hypothetical scenarios, which I think is most likely.
tomohelix 4y ago
Can you run a full scale LLM? Do you have the capital to deploy the product an LLM make? Are there any suppliers and retail partners? Even if hypothetically speaking a real, true AGI come out tomorrow totally open source and available to all, not many can benefit from it the way you described.
thfuran 4y ago
>I don’t need a manger anymore as I can use LLMs to build my own Microsoft Can you really? Even presuming that an LLM could replicate everything that Microsoft currently does (which it sure as hell can't now), Microsoft can have ten thousand people working with LLMs, each running with a thousand times the resources you could give yours. How do you propose to compete with that?
evilduck 4y ago
> As an engineer, if I can outsource the coding part of my job... Congrats, you're now the manager.

pixl97 4y ago

> why do you need a boss when you have an LLM Because you still need capital to do all these things you're talking about. Compute time isn't free, and you still need to eat. People that have capital and work together will build up better systems faster and capitalize their network connections to sell products better while you're still typing away on your computer.

ChatGTP 4y ago
I'm not suggesting you work on your own exactly, I'm saying that 10-20 out of work software engineers could probably do a lot of damage to existing corporations including Microsoft by building their own LLM against them to build as good, or better products. People are assigning almost super natural ability to ChatGPT 4 already based on the demo video. If that exists, there's little to no reason why I couldn't use ChatGPT 4 to help me build my own more efficient ChatGPT 5. At this point, I probably won't need a "manager", I'll be managing my own stuff. You're right I'd need to eat, but I'm sure a lot of people on HN have a years worth of savings to get started building new things. There would probably be also a lot of VCs who have no where else to put their money, at least initially. That or these LLMs aren't actually as capable as advertised, even if they are impressive and mostly we're talking about hypothetical scenarios, which I think is most likely.

tomohelix 4y ago

Can you run a full scale LLM? Do you have the capital to deploy the product an LLM make? Are there any suppliers and retail partners? Even if hypothetically speaking a real, true AGI come out tomorrow totally open source and available to all, not many can benefit from it the way you described.

thfuran 4y ago

>I don’t need a manger anymore as I can use LLMs to build my own Microsoft Can you really? Even presuming that an LLM could replicate everything that Microsoft currently does (which it sure as hell can't now), Microsoft can have ten thousand people working with LLMs, each running with a thousand times the resources you could give yours. How do you propose to compete with that?

evilduck 4y ago

> As an engineer, if I can outsource the coding part of my job... Congrats, you're now the manager.