For me HN is more similar to one moderated sub on a reddit, not a reddit as whole. You can find small moderated communities on a reddit where you can discuss an

For me HN is more similar to one moderated sub on a reddit, not a reddit as whole. You can find small moderated communities on a reddit where you can discuss any topics without "noise". Also you can find big popular communities similar in style to 4chan. And honestly I see nothing wrong with it.