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Oh, good. Here I thought we had given hundreds of billions to Ukraine for a war against russia, must have been for their upstanding daycare programs.
by albatross13 4y ago
Oh, good. Here I thought we had given hundreds of billions to Ukraine for a war against russia, must have been for their upstanding daycare programs.
- genman 4y agoOh, shut up with this BS. There are no hundreds of billions given and giving military aid doesn't mean that we are in the war. Unless of course you are some Russian troll spreading their fake news here. This we are war with NATO is a message to common Russians just to make then feel warm from the inside and not feel ashamed how their army is getting slaughtered by "inferior khohols". At the same time they are fed with high amount of genocidal propaganda. We are doing too little to put end to this genocidal war against Ukrainians. I believed that "no more again" actually means something.
- idiotsecant 4y agoI mean...we are clearly in a proxy war with Russia. We are dumping a huge amount of resources into ensuring that they lose their conflict with Ukraine, or at least win a pyrrhic victory that will destabilize the regime. You can argue whether it's a good use of resources or not (I think it is a good use of resources right now) but it's clearly silly to argue that the US is not doing this.
- genman 4y agoThe definition of proxy war is quite specific. It requires that a third party is waging war at the instigation or on behalf of us. This is not true. Russia attacked Ukraine and Ukraine is defending itself on its own. We only provide necessary assistance for it to do so. Of course these arguments come up that try to rationalize this support in many ways but it doesn't matter. Ukraine doesn't continue to fight to please us but because it is an existential matter for itself.