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I don't see how this is inherently worse than mobile phones, which are carried by everyone in the developed world all the time.

by primax 4y ago

hunter2_ 4y ago
The likelihood that what you say "in person" is recorded and stored by someone easily subpoenaed increases quite a bit. While mobile apps might record and upload without the owner of the phone knowing, the odds seem low; this changes the situation significantly.
autoexec 4y ago
> I don't see how this is inherently worse than mobile phones, the problem isn't that it's worse than a cell phone. The problem is that it isn't any better. All of the privacy and security problems that exist with cell phones now exist with this product. You're locked in to using a cell phone which, for most people, is a hardware platform that Google controls and exploits at your expense. You can't secure your cell phone and keep it private, and so nothing on your cell phone should be assumed to be secure or private. If I'm in my doctors office, or working with a client, or doing anything where I don't want Google and who knows who else listening I can turn off my phone, or put it away, or leave it at home, and be reasonably sure that I'm not being eavesdropped on (there's always some risk of three letter agencies listening, but you can't do anything about that), but that's not an option if I need my phone to transcribe every word being said to me and even in situations where I currently leave my phone on it isn't normally sending every word it hears to the cloud to transcribe and send back to me either. I like that this can work with a cell phone app, but it'd be much better if it could be used entirely offline, and ideally on different hardware as well, including a PC. Imagine being able to run something like this entirely offline connected to something the size of an ipod or even a nano running linux. Imagine being able to build your own tools to interface with it. Add your own substitutions/annotations to real time text. Add dictionaries, or translation features. This could be really cool even life-changing tech for people, or it could just be one more technology that's convenient but ultimately used to exploit people.

I don't see how this is inherently worse than mobile phones, which are carried by everyone in the developed world all the time.

by primax 4y ago

I don't see how this is inherently worse than mobile phones, which are carried by everyone in the developed world all the time.

hunter2_ 4y ago

The likelihood that what you say "in person" is recorded and stored by someone easily subpoenaed increases quite a bit. While mobile apps might record and upload without the owner of the phone knowing, the odds seem low; this changes the situation significantly.

autoexec 4y ago

> I don't see how this is inherently worse than mobile phones, the problem isn't that it's worse than a cell phone. The problem is that it isn't any better. All of the privacy and security problems that exist with cell phones now exist with this product. You're locked in to using a cell phone which, for most people, is a hardware platform that Google controls and exploits at your expense. You can't secure your cell phone and keep it private, and so nothing on your cell phone should be assumed to be secure or private. If I'm in my doctors office, or working with a client, or doing anything where I don't want Google and who knows who else listening I can turn off my phone, or put it away, or leave it at home, and be reasonably sure that I'm not being eavesdropped on (there's always some risk of three letter agencies listening, but you can't do anything about that), but that's not an option if I need my phone to transcribe every word being said to me and even in situations where I currently leave my phone on it isn't normally sending every word it hears to the cloud to transcribe and send back to me either. I like that this can work with a cell phone app, but it'd be much better if it could be used entirely offline, and ideally on different hardware as well, including a PC. Imagine being able to run something like this entirely offline connected to something the size of an ipod or even a nano running linux. Imagine being able to build your own tools to interface with it. Add your own substitutions/annotations to real time text. Add dictionaries, or translation features. This could be really cool even life-changing tech for people, or it could just be one more technology that's convenient but ultimately used to exploit people.