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I don't think the author quite groks the map/territory distinction that Korzybski goes on and on about. > A map shows you everything at once. The order of even
by ineptech 4y ago
I don't think the author quite groks the map/territory distinction that Korzybski goes on and on about.
> A map shows you everything at once. The order of events matters on a journey. Knowing your way around a place isn't remotely like map-knowledge. Korzybski almost gets this point. Whatever is happening as we represent the flow of sensation in words has a weak and fragile grip on things outside of the mind. Words can only express a tiny slice of what we experience of the world.
In other words, he's complaining that a "map" (as in, paper with a drawing of some terrain on it) is a poor and limited stand-in for a "map" (as in mental model of some phenomenon). But that's exactly what Korzybski was saying! All maps are poor and limited, by virtue of being maps, even the one implied by "The map is not the territory" which uses physical terrain maps as a model for models generally.
To be fair, Korzybski was prolific and most of his writing is pretty opaque and I don't understand 90% of his output (and I consider myself a huge fan!) so I may be misunderstanding OP's point, or misrepresenting Korzybski's. I'm just adding my two cents' worth because I was very heavily influenced by General Semantics (the parts I can understand) and am always excited to see it discussed.
- superb-owl 4y agoI agree with your assessment. OP is aligned with Korzybski, even though he says he’s disagreeing.
- youssefabdelm 4y agoI also get the sense that OP has not read enough general semantics to recognize that what seem like "edge cases" not covered by general semantics are actually touched upon frequently across the discipline's key people, at least (seemingly to me) hinted at in many cases if we're only considering Korzybski (e.g. structural differential / idea of layers of abstraction)... but I could be wrong. Maybe OP is trying hard to express a not yet fully formed nuanced and new idea that was sort of at the subconscious level, and we are just struggling to understand.