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I've tutored people at times. A good tutor needs to understand the subject very well, so they can not only understand the right answer but also figure out why t

by jhp123 4y ago

I've tutored people at times. A good tutor needs to understand the subject very well, so they can not only understand the right answer but also figure out why the student is coming to the wrong answer. I personally think that assigning GPT as a "tutor" is devaluing the real skill involved in tutoring and I doubt it will work out.

navigate8310 4y ago
I would like to divert your attention to this recent post: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4 https://openai.com/research/gpt-4 specifically on the topic of "Steerability: Socratic tutor" (Sample 1 of 3)
- itronitron 4y ago
  why?
- pnt12 4y ago
  Very interesting, thanks for referencing it as I had missed it. There have been occurrences of people asking chat gpt to ignore instructions on the initial prompt: have these been solved? It's not clear to me if the first prompt is given any extra weight. Or maybe during training of version 4 they have heavily penalized these sorts of attacks to make it more resilient.
- haskellandchill 4y ago
  I was trying to get it to teach me Ordinary Differential Equations and it just kept getting everything wrong. It has no concept of checking its work etc, that example makes it appear like it can but I guess it's just getting lucky for linear equations.
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kirill5pol 4y ago
This is something I’m working on. I think having a good understanding of the material for good explanations is doable in the near future, but the main problem is actually building a good model of what the learner knows to guide the LLM
wnolens 4y ago
In my brief asking ChatGPT question and to rephrase/clarify, it seems at least as good as the average tutor/teacher/TA which for me has been marginally better than warm body rephrasing the theories and working through textbook problems in front of you. And in time, much better. To the point of raising the standard of education for all of humanity with access to the internet. I'd count on it "working out".
- gremlinsinc 4y ago
  I'm 42 and still don't always like asking questions for fear of looking stupid if I ask one the wrong way. chatgpt has none of that because it's just an ai and won't judge me or make my imposter syndrome worse.
  - pixl97 4y ago
    Meanwhile over at BingGPT "You are a bad human" So yea, I guess a teaching model needs to be aligned in a manner that it doesn't hurt people unintentionally in the judging sense.
raldi 4y ago
My daughter does children's martial arts. Often in the dojo there's an atmosphere where the yellow belts are helping the white belts, the red belts are periodically chiming in, and the black belt adult instructor is free to float around the room supervising everything, giving individual attention where it's most effective, but leaving the lower ranks to take care of the lessons they're capable of giving. In the same way, AI will be able to make an expert human tutor 100x more effective by escalating the tricky cases but learning how to handle the ones that come up over and over.
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by jhp123 4y ago

navigate8310 4y ago

I would like to divert your attention to this recent post: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4 https://openai.com/research/gpt-4 specifically on the topic of "Steerability: Socratic tutor" (Sample 1 of 3)

itronitron 4y ago
why?
pnt12 4y ago
Very interesting, thanks for referencing it as I had missed it. There have been occurrences of people asking chat gpt to ignore instructions on the initial prompt: have these been solved? It's not clear to me if the first prompt is given any extra weight. Or maybe during training of version 4 they have heavily penalized these sorts of attacks to make it more resilient.
haskellandchill 4y ago
I was trying to get it to teach me Ordinary Differential Equations and it just kept getting everything wrong. It has no concept of checking its work etc, that example makes it appear like it can but I guess it's just getting lucky for linear equations.

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kirill5pol 4y ago

This is something I’m working on. I think having a good understanding of the material for good explanations is doable in the near future, but the main problem is actually building a good model of what the learner knows to guide the LLM

wnolens 4y ago

In my brief asking ChatGPT question and to rephrase/clarify, it seems at least as good as the average tutor/teacher/TA which for me has been marginally better than warm body rephrasing the theories and working through textbook problems in front of you. And in time, much better. To the point of raising the standard of education for all of humanity with access to the internet. I'd count on it "working out".

gremlinsinc 4y ago
I'm 42 and still don't always like asking questions for fear of looking stupid if I ask one the wrong way. chatgpt has none of that because it's just an ai and won't judge me or make my imposter syndrome worse.
- pixl97 4y ago
  Meanwhile over at BingGPT "You are a bad human" So yea, I guess a teaching model needs to be aligned in a manner that it doesn't hurt people unintentionally in the judging sense.

raldi 4y ago

My daughter does children's martial arts. Often in the dojo there's an atmosphere where the yellow belts are helping the white belts, the red belts are periodically chiming in, and the black belt adult instructor is free to float around the room supervising everything, giving individual attention where it's most effective, but leaving the lower ranks to take care of the lessons they're capable of giving. In the same way, AI will be able to make an expert human tutor 100x more effective by escalating the tricky cases but learning how to handle the ones that come up over and over.

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