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> It seems increasingly that the concerns from the ethics branch have not come to pass at all. Nonsense, there are countless ethical and alignment harms in the
by dweinus 4y ago
> It seems increasingly that the concerns from the ethics branch have not come to pass at all.
Nonsense, there are countless ethical and alignment harms in the wild, and have been for many years. For example:
- midjourney ripping off artists = ethical harm
- google search telling people to throw batteries in the ocean = alignment harm
- Buzzfeed slashing staff and replacing them with chatgpt = ethical harm
- google photos labelling african americans as "gorilla" = alignment harm
- deep fakes = ethical harm
- COMPAS parole recommender biased against minorities = alignment and ethical harm
- Amazon resume screening model biased against women and minorities = alignment and ethical harm
...I could do this all day, but the point I'm trying to make is that AI ethics and AI alignment are both valid and important concerns. Hoping that companies will take care of them without regulation is folly.
- snickerbockers 4y ago>- Buzzfeed slashing staff and replacing them with chatgpt = ethical harm yeah but in buzzfeed's case it's a bit moot because their content can't possibly get any worse than it already is.
- Nasrudith 4y agoBut do the ethicists or alignmentists do anything to actually reduce or prevent the harm? Most of the cases they are useful as nipples on breastplates because they did nothing but yell at the problem post-hoc that they should have been more careful and had more foresight. Meanwhile leader incentives already decided on the bad outcome.
- zestyping 4y agoI'm confused. All of your examples sound like ethical harm to me, according to the definition in the parent comment. How are you drawing the line?