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> terrible attitude towards privacy A VPN is inherently not a privacy tool. It is perceived that way because of the acronym Virtual 'Private' Network but priva

> terrible attitude towards privacy A VPN is inherently not a privacy tool. It is perceived that way because of the acronym Virtual 'Private' Network but privacy is not in the design specs at all. It's just for tunneling over untrusted networks like Starbucks Wi-Fi and spoofing your geo-location. That's it. You can't verify the no-logs claims by providers unless you're physically in their building and auditing the setup yourself.

ganoushoreilly 4y ago
I'm curious as to why you're being down voted. Technically VPN is a private network, but what you're getting at isn't wrong either. If you don't own / control the network you have no way to verify. I'm not passing judgement on Nord one way or the other but I get what you're saying. EDIT: At the time you were downvoted, I see it's not longer the case. Further comments about Nord and questionable behavior have also been posted in the thread.
roelschroeven 4y ago
> A VPN is inherently not a privacy tool. Maybe not, but NordVPN and similar services do heavily market themselves as essential privacy tools.
- favorited 4y ago
  And some, like MullvadVPN, don't even ask for common PII. No usernames, no email addresses, no passwords, no persistent billing information. They could claw some information from certain payment providers (like if you used Stripe to top off your account) if they wanted, but you can pay your bill by putting cash in an envelope and mailing it, if you wanted to.
2h 4y ago
> spoofing your geo-location thats good enough for me. I am sick and tired of websites telling me what I can and cannot do based on my location. Its not the 90s anymore, I refuse to put up with geo blocking.
slim 4y ago
right, it's private only if you control all the nodes (like in entreprise)
LeBit 4y ago
My ISP doesn't see what I do. My DNS queries are sent into a private network. Nobody knows what I'm looking at. When I torrent movies, my IP cannot be tracked. It is shared with many users. It is fast. Those are all grest properties I gladly pay for.
- etherealG 4y ago
  Not sure I understand, are you saying you use or don’t use a vpn? If you don’t, how do you “hide” your ip while torrenting?
  - tekknik 4y ago
    Typically you’d use a seed box and have that do the actual torrenting, with you accessing the seed box via the VPN
- n3rv 4y ago
  carrier grade NAT does not hide you...

ganoushoreilly 4y ago

I'm curious as to why you're being down voted. Technically VPN is a private network, but what you're getting at isn't wrong either. If you don't own / control the network you have no way to verify. I'm not passing judgement on Nord one way or the other but I get what you're saying. EDIT: At the time you were downvoted, I see it's not longer the case. Further comments about Nord and questionable behavior have also been posted in the thread.

roelschroeven 4y ago

> A VPN is inherently not a privacy tool. Maybe not, but NordVPN and similar services do heavily market themselves as essential privacy tools.

favorited 4y ago
And some, like MullvadVPN, don't even ask for common PII. No usernames, no email addresses, no passwords, no persistent billing information. They could claw some information from certain payment providers (like if you used Stripe to top off your account) if they wanted, but you can pay your bill by putting cash in an envelope and mailing it, if you wanted to.

2h 4y ago

> spoofing your geo-location thats good enough for me. I am sick and tired of websites telling me what I can and cannot do based on my location. Its not the 90s anymore, I refuse to put up with geo blocking.

slim 4y ago

right, it's private only if you control all the nodes (like in entreprise)

LeBit 4y ago

My ISP doesn't see what I do. My DNS queries are sent into a private network. Nobody knows what I'm looking at. When I torrent movies, my IP cannot be tracked. It is shared with many users. It is fast. Those are all grest properties I gladly pay for.

etherealG 4y ago
Not sure I understand, are you saying you use or don’t use a vpn? If you don’t, how do you “hide” your ip while torrenting?
- tekknik 4y ago
  Typically you’d use a seed box and have that do the actual torrenting, with you accessing the seed box via the VPN
n3rv 4y ago
carrier grade NAT does not hide you...