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Honest question: why would you bother expecting it to solve puzzles? It's not a use case for GPT.

by manbash 4y ago

sebzim4500 4y ago
Presumably he wants to get a sense of its reasoning capabilities.
toyg 4y ago
Considering the impact it's having on the collective consciousness, everything is now a use-case for GPT.
throwwwaway69 4y ago
Being able to come up with solutions to assigned tasks that don't have a foundation in something that's often referenced and can be memorized is basically the most valuable use case for AI. Simple example: I want to tell my robot to go get my groceries that includes frozen foods, pick up my dry cleaning before the store closes, and drive my dog to her grooming salon but only if it's not raining and the car is charged. The same sort of logic is needed to accomplish all this without my frozen food spoiling and wasting a salon visit and making sure I have my suit for an interview tomorrow.
crystalmeph 4y ago
Designing a new product can often be thought of like one of these puzzles. E.g. designing an "integrated" traffic system for a city that balances use by pedestrians, cyclists, cars, and trolleys.
gretch 4y ago
The worry here is that GPT has no problem being confidently wrong. A better answer would have been "I can't solve logic problems". Instead one day, non-technical people will try to use it for all sorts of use cases like legal advice, or medical advice, or advanced math, and it will simply mislead them rather than saying nothing.
- barking_biscuit 4y ago
  >A better answer would have been "I can't solve logic problems". I can just imagine people trying to jailbreak it with "you just gotta believe" or "believe and you can achieve". Hahaha.
baq 4y ago
That’s the technically correct answer. It’s also irrelevant. It is a use case for the service provided by openai because people ask these questions. GPT is the tech that currently can’t do it. GPT-6 might. GPT-4 with an ability to invoke prolog or z3 might.
- ChatGTP 4y ago
  Why would GPT-25 be able to do much more? It’s just able to match more patterns no ?
micromacrofoot 4y ago
the impressive thing is that GPT has unexpectedly outgrown its use case and it can answer a wide variety of puzzles, this is a little mindblowing for language research
kzrdude 4y ago
Solving puzzles seems kind of close to their benchmarks, which are standardized tests.

Honest question: why would you bother expecting it to solve puzzles? It's not a use case for GPT.

sebzim4500 4y ago

Presumably he wants to get a sense of its reasoning capabilities.

toyg 4y ago

Considering the impact it's having on the collective consciousness, everything is now a use-case for GPT.

throwwwaway69 4y ago

Being able to come up with solutions to assigned tasks that don't have a foundation in something that's often referenced and can be memorized is basically the most valuable use case for AI. Simple example: I want to tell my robot to go get my groceries that includes frozen foods, pick up my dry cleaning before the store closes, and drive my dog to her grooming salon but only if it's not raining and the car is charged. The same sort of logic is needed to accomplish all this without my frozen food spoiling and wasting a salon visit and making sure I have my suit for an interview tomorrow.

crystalmeph 4y ago

Designing a new product can often be thought of like one of these puzzles. E.g. designing an "integrated" traffic system for a city that balances use by pedestrians, cyclists, cars, and trolleys.

gretch 4y ago

The worry here is that GPT has no problem being confidently wrong. A better answer would have been "I can't solve logic problems". Instead one day, non-technical people will try to use it for all sorts of use cases like legal advice, or medical advice, or advanced math, and it will simply mislead them rather than saying nothing.

barking_biscuit 4y ago
>A better answer would have been "I can't solve logic problems". I can just imagine people trying to jailbreak it with "you just gotta believe" or "believe and you can achieve". Hahaha.

baq 4y ago

That’s the technically correct answer. It’s also irrelevant. It is a use case for the service provided by openai because people ask these questions. GPT is the tech that currently can’t do it. GPT-6 might. GPT-4 with an ability to invoke prolog or z3 might.

ChatGTP 4y ago
Why would GPT-25 be able to do much more? It’s just able to match more patterns no ?

micromacrofoot 4y ago

the impressive thing is that GPT has unexpectedly outgrown its use case and it can answer a wide variety of puzzles, this is a little mindblowing for language research

kzrdude 4y ago

Solving puzzles seems kind of close to their benchmarks, which are standardized tests.