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It's not clear to me the median human will do better by being in the loop. Will most human-made deductive follow-up questions be better than another "detective"

It's not clear to me the median human will do better by being in the loop. Will most human-made deductive follow-up questions be better than another "detective" language model asking them? It's like having a person review the moves a chess computer gives. Maybe one human in a billion can spot errors. Star Trek is fiction, I posit that the median Federation Starship captain would be better served by just following the AI (e.g., Data).

basch 4y ago
Maybe the human is the rng or temperature or lava lamp. At least until we can model and predict each brains tendencies with accuracy.
- Kye 4y ago
  I think we'll reach a tipping point like we did with DNA sequencing where we figure out how to quickly map out all the unique patterns of enough brains to model one that can understand itself. People worry too much about rogue AI, and not enough about the CRISPR of brain mapping being used to inject patterns into meatbrains.
  - basch 4y ago
    Strange Days not The Matrix is the prescient fictional warning. A black market of taboo “memories” aka experiences. A desire for authentic ones over synthetic diffused ones, leading to heinous crime.
Auracle 4y ago
There were plenty of Star Trek episodes where it seemed like they should just ask the damned computer. Then again, Data did show his faults, particularly not having any emotion. I guess we’ll see if that’s actually relevant or not in our lifetimes.
- int_19h 4y ago
  As far as that last part goes, I think we already have ample evidence that bots can, if not have emotions, then pretend that they do (including wrt their decision making) well enough for humans to treat them as genuine.
EGreg 4y ago
I met Garry Kasparov when he was training for the Desp Blue match (using Fritz). He lost to Deep Blue and then for 10-15 years afterwards the chess world consoled itself with the idea that “centaurs” (human + computer) did better than just computer, or just human. Until they didn’t. Garry still talked like this until a few years ago but then he stopped too. Computers now beat centaurs too. Human decisions will be consulted less and less BY ORGANIZATIONS. In absolutely everything. That’s pretty sad for humans. But then again humans don’t want or need this level of AI. Organizations do. Organizations prefer bots to humans — look at wall street trading and hedge funds.

basch 4y ago

Maybe the human is the rng or temperature or lava lamp. At least until we can model and predict each brains tendencies with accuracy.

Kye 4y ago
I think we'll reach a tipping point like we did with DNA sequencing where we figure out how to quickly map out all the unique patterns of enough brains to model one that can understand itself. People worry too much about rogue AI, and not enough about the CRISPR of brain mapping being used to inject patterns into meatbrains.
- basch 4y ago
  Strange Days not The Matrix is the prescient fictional warning. A black market of taboo “memories” aka experiences. A desire for authentic ones over synthetic diffused ones, leading to heinous crime.

Auracle 4y ago

There were plenty of Star Trek episodes where it seemed like they should just ask the damned computer. Then again, Data did show his faults, particularly not having any emotion. I guess we’ll see if that’s actually relevant or not in our lifetimes.

int_19h 4y ago
As far as that last part goes, I think we already have ample evidence that bots can, if not have emotions, then pretend that they do (including wrt their decision making) well enough for humans to treat them as genuine.

EGreg 4y ago

I met Garry Kasparov when he was training for the Desp Blue match (using Fritz). He lost to Deep Blue and then for 10-15 years afterwards the chess world consoled itself with the idea that “centaurs” (human + computer) did better than just computer, or just human. Until they didn’t. Garry still talked like this until a few years ago but then he stopped too. Computers now beat centaurs too. Human decisions will be consulted less and less BY ORGANIZATIONS. In absolutely everything. That’s pretty sad for humans. But then again humans don’t want or need this level of AI. Organizations do. Organizations prefer bots to humans — look at wall street trading and hedge funds.