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Whats phenomenal about this so far is that the email does not indicate: - what actually will happen to teams that don't become paid - what will get del

Whats phenomenal about this so far is that the email does not indicate: - what actually will happen to teams that don't become paid - what will get deleted on which timeline - whether others will be able to typosquat the images after the teams get deleted - how folks might handle cases where a team is owned by an oss org and has no central billing thing (fairly common) - how we might better handle bot users as part of paid teams Also great is that the only way I'd know this was going on is by checking my email - I quickly went to their blog to look and didn't find anything relating to this email. If anything, I'd want to convert my teams (dokku and gliderlabs) _back_ to single accounts, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that. I get that there is a need to make the company profitable but maybe spend more than 5 minutes crafting the email and thinking of outcomes for your users (who are already pissed at your pricing changes). This only makes me feel like I should move my hosting to something paid (ECR?), delete the org, and then typosquat the images.

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mattrick 4y ago
GitHub Container Registry is a decent option for orgs, open source and private. I believe it's free to host public images and private images are just tied into your GitHub billing.
- WirelessGigabit 4y ago
  Except that the docker cli defaults to the https://hub.docker.com https://hub.docker.com registry. Meaning if you do docker pull rust it'll get it from https://hub.docker.com/_/rust https://hub.docker.com/_/rust Then there are namespaced things, for example your new product, mattrick/awome-flobbergator How to install? Docker. docker pull mattrick/awome-flobbergator Using default tag: latest Error response from daemon: pull access denied for mattrick/awome-flobbergator, repository does not exist or may require 'docker login': denied: requested access to the resource is denied Every time someone needs to prefix it with ghcr.io to make it pull from GitHub. We shouldn't do 1) default registries 2) when we post documentation online we should be explicit as to what the registry is
  - m463 4y ago
    This is all part of docker's master plan. You can see it with more clarity here: https://github.com/moby/moby/issues/11815 https://github.com/moby/moby/issues/11815 or here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33054369/how-to-change-the-default-docker-registry-from-docker-io-to-my-private-registry https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33054369/how-to-change-t... so redhat's podman clone of docker allows this: https://halukkarakaya.medium.com/how-to-configure-default-search-registries-in-podman-ea930289692 https://halukkarakaya.medium.com/how-to-configure-default-se...
potency 4y ago
Maybe I'm cynical, but in leaving so many critical information points out, Docker appears to be fear mongering organizations into paying for a subscription. If they provided answers to all these points, then orgs would be able to make a logical decision. By leaving these questions unanswered, orgs are incentivized to move to paid just to avoid any unknown consequences.
donmcronald 4y ago
I have an idle team to hold a namespace for brand protection / to prevent squatting on the namespace that matches my GitHub organization. Since the Docker daemon defaults to using Docker Hub, this feels like a dirty move to me. If I want 2 members to ensure someone can always control that namespace, do I have to pay $240 per year now? I’d pay $20 per year for that since it helps prevent large scale squatting, but $240 per year under the threat of deletion feels like extortion.

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mattrick 4y ago

GitHub Container Registry is a decent option for orgs, open source and private. I believe it's free to host public images and private images are just tied into your GitHub billing.

WirelessGigabit 4y ago
Except that the docker cli defaults to the https://hub.docker.com https://hub.docker.com registry. Meaning if you do docker pull rust it'll get it from https://hub.docker.com/_/rust https://hub.docker.com/_/rust Then there are namespaced things, for example your new product, mattrick/awome-flobbergator How to install? Docker. docker pull mattrick/awome-flobbergator Using default tag: latest Error response from daemon: pull access denied for mattrick/awome-flobbergator, repository does not exist or may require 'docker login': denied: requested access to the resource is denied Every time someone needs to prefix it with ghcr.io to make it pull from GitHub. We shouldn't do 1) default registries 2) when we post documentation online we should be explicit as to what the registry is
- m463 4y ago
  This is all part of docker's master plan. You can see it with more clarity here: https://github.com/moby/moby/issues/11815 https://github.com/moby/moby/issues/11815 or here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33054369/how-to-change-the-default-docker-registry-from-docker-io-to-my-private-registry https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33054369/how-to-change-t... so redhat's podman clone of docker allows this: https://halukkarakaya.medium.com/how-to-configure-default-search-registries-in-podman-ea930289692 https://halukkarakaya.medium.com/how-to-configure-default-se...

potency 4y ago

Maybe I'm cynical, but in leaving so many critical information points out, Docker appears to be fear mongering organizations into paying for a subscription. If they provided answers to all these points, then orgs would be able to make a logical decision. By leaving these questions unanswered, orgs are incentivized to move to paid just to avoid any unknown consequences.

donmcronald 4y ago

I have an idle team to hold a namespace for brand protection / to prevent squatting on the namespace that matches my GitHub organization. Since the Docker daemon defaults to using Docker Hub, this feels like a dirty move to me. If I want 2 members to ensure someone can always control that namespace, do I have to pay $240 per year now? I’d pay $20 per year for that since it helps prevent large scale squatting, but $240 per year under the threat of deletion feels like extortion.