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> since the client now needs to know how to address a particular resource for creates, it's still possible that the client has previously queried the server an

by tjpick 15y ago

> since the client now needs to know how to address a particular resource for creates, it's still possible that the client has previously queried the server and been allocated an appropriate address that the new resource should be PUT to (eg been advised of the next free auto-id, or creating using client generated GUIDs). PUT seems appropriate in these cases.

kgtm 15y ago
Valid point, and PUT would indeed be appropriate. But are there any benefits to this approach? I'm sure there is an edge case I can't think of right now; as I see it, there is one more trip to the server, plus extra code to accommodate it versus a simple POST to a collection endpoint.
- icebraining 15y ago
  Not all resources are part of a collection, though. It can be a resource linked from another. Let's say 'product' resource you're selling. That may return a bunch of data, including a link to a 'description' resource about the product. Since you've never created such description, the link will return 404, but you can PUT a description to that URL without having any extra trips, just the visit to the product.
- tjpick 15y ago
  never had the call to do it myself. Just something I keep in the back of my mind for a rainy day. The benefits would be application specific, I don't think it's something that you balance against POST to the collection in the general case and do one approach exclusively. I have used POST to collection extensively and PUT for create never. One example I can think of is you are making one of those sign up forms that does AJAX to check that the username is free or not. You could use a PUT in a case like that because you've already done the extra server trip as part of a usability improvement.
justincormack 15y ago
Allocating an address sounds much like creating a stub entry resource. You could argue that you should use a POST for that, and then PUT to it. You cannot query for say next free id with GET as it has the wrong semantics, and might get cached...

by tjpick 15y ago

kgtm 15y ago

Valid point, and PUT would indeed be appropriate. But are there any benefits to this approach? I'm sure there is an edge case I can't think of right now; as I see it, there is one more trip to the server, plus extra code to accommodate it versus a simple POST to a collection endpoint.

icebraining 15y ago
Not all resources are part of a collection, though. It can be a resource linked from another. Let's say 'product' resource you're selling. That may return a bunch of data, including a link to a 'description' resource about the product. Since you've never created such description, the link will return 404, but you can PUT a description to that URL without having any extra trips, just the visit to the product.
tjpick 15y ago
never had the call to do it myself. Just something I keep in the back of my mind for a rainy day. The benefits would be application specific, I don't think it's something that you balance against POST to the collection in the general case and do one approach exclusively. I have used POST to collection extensively and PUT for create never. One example I can think of is you are making one of those sign up forms that does AJAX to check that the username is free or not. You could use a PUT in a case like that because you've already done the extra server trip as part of a usability improvement.

justincormack 15y ago

Allocating an address sounds much like creating a stub entry resource. You could argue that you should use a POST for that, and then PUT to it. You cannot query for say next free id with GET as it has the wrong semantics, and might get cached...