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If you can't see how hundreds of thousands of extra employees in the labor pool depresses wages, I don't know what to tell you. > How is that not contributing

If you can't see how hundreds of thousands of extra employees in the labor pool depresses wages, I don't know what to tell you. > How is that not contributing positively? You understand that universities are the #1 gate keeper for the impoverished, right? Your company can afford to be highly selective with hiring candidates from universities because immigrants have created a surplus of labor. If there were not immigrants in these high paying jobs, the university pipeline would be inadequate to fulfill hiring goals, and they'd have to invest in either putting more people into universities or providing them with apprenticeships.

the_mar 4y ago
Are you claiming that an employee with decades of experience can be replaced with a new grad willy-nilly? That's a false equivalency. A lot of things you seem to believe are incredibly backwards. Please educate yourself, because you do come off as xenophobic. Good place to start: https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/h1b-visa-program-fact-sheet https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/h1b-visa...
- linuxftw 4y ago
  Looks like there's already a 6 year max that is obviously being abused. > Please educate yourself, because you do come off as xenophobic. I do not care about foreign workers, only domestic workers. I don't think immigration should be tied to employment for any reason. It has nothing to do with cultures, or races, or nationalities, it has to do with wages. There are too many poor people in the US that are not able to move up economically for a variety of reasons, one of which is a large influx of white collar labor.
  - the_mar 4y ago
    > Looks like there's already a 6 year max that is obviously being abused. How is it being abused? E.g. it is perfectly legal to apply for a green card after your H1B and there are quotas for immigrants from each country. Alternatively, after living in a country for 5+ years someone may marry a US citizen. Should it be banned? Are we to impose a ban on dating anyone who is not a US national? > I don't think immigration should be tied to employment for any reason. So what should immigration be tied to then? What are other reasons for someone to be in the US for extended period of time. > I do not care about foreign workers, only domestic workers. Replace "workers" with "people" and here you have the reason why you are a bit xenophobic. > There are too many poor people in the US that are not able to move up economically for a variety of reasons, one of which is a large influx of white collar labor. There is literally no evidence to support the claim that white collar skilled immigrant workers do anything but create MORE job opportunities in the United States.

the_mar 4y ago

Are you claiming that an employee with decades of experience can be replaced with a new grad willy-nilly? That's a false equivalency. A lot of things you seem to believe are incredibly backwards. Please educate yourself, because you do come off as xenophobic. Good place to start: https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/h1b-visa-program-fact-sheet https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/h1b-visa...

linuxftw 4y ago
Looks like there's already a 6 year max that is obviously being abused. > Please educate yourself, because you do come off as xenophobic. I do not care about foreign workers, only domestic workers. I don't think immigration should be tied to employment for any reason. It has nothing to do with cultures, or races, or nationalities, it has to do with wages. There are too many poor people in the US that are not able to move up economically for a variety of reasons, one of which is a large influx of white collar labor.
- the_mar 4y ago
  > Looks like there's already a 6 year max that is obviously being abused. How is it being abused? E.g. it is perfectly legal to apply for a green card after your H1B and there are quotas for immigrants from each country. Alternatively, after living in a country for 5+ years someone may marry a US citizen. Should it be banned? Are we to impose a ban on dating anyone who is not a US national? > I don't think immigration should be tied to employment for any reason. So what should immigration be tied to then? What are other reasons for someone to be in the US for extended period of time. > I do not care about foreign workers, only domestic workers. Replace "workers" with "people" and here you have the reason why you are a bit xenophobic. > There are too many poor people in the US that are not able to move up economically for a variety of reasons, one of which is a large influx of white collar labor. There is literally no evidence to support the claim that white collar skilled immigrant workers do anything but create MORE job opportunities in the United States.