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http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3514232 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3514232 - ACTA will NOT pass as of now since it's in validation of Basic Human R

by ergo14 15y ago

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3514232 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3514232 - ACTA will NOT pass as of now since it's in validation of Basic Human Rights Bill, so it looks with exception of Poland and Czech EU is safe, but i have high hopes that our (polish) parliament will not ratify the document. So lets hope not everything is lost. http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/bert-knabe/2011-11-25/european-court-justice-internet-filtering-illegal#.TyGXlkDCQkA http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/bert-knabe/2011-... here are more sources on the matter

sounds 15y ago
Do you have any suggestions for what the internet can do? Those of us outside Poland and the Czech Republic?
- ergo14 15y ago
  I'm not a lawyer only a humble developer, I think the only thing we can do in EU is to put pressure on EU parliament to not agree to the pact - that's all.
tszyn 15y ago
The blog post you linked says ACTA contains a three-strikes provision. That used to be true, but it isn't anymore. Just read the final text. Furthermore, I see nothing in ACTA that contradicts the ECJ ruling (ACTA does not say anything specific about ISP filtering) and I haven't seen any serious source claim that this ruling makes ACTA illegal.
tszyn 15y ago
This whole piece of news is total B.S. There is no last-minute ruling. There was a ruling of the ECJ on NOVEMBER 24, not January 24. See: http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/jcms/Jo2_16799/?annee=2011 http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/jcms/Jo2_16799/?annee=2011 The reason for the confusion is that PAP (Polish Press Agency) reported this "news" today, giving the wrong date, and all the major news outlets re-reported it without checking (how hard is it to go to the ECJ website?). TVN24 has now published a correction, but the information has already spread and now many people think ACTA has been made illegal. The truth is that the ECJ has never made any ruling about ACTA. It has only ruled that ISP filtering is illegal in the EU, but that is not directly in contradiction with ACTA.

by ergo14 15y ago

sounds 15y ago

Do you have any suggestions for what the internet can do? Those of us outside Poland and the Czech Republic?

ergo14 15y ago
I'm not a lawyer only a humble developer, I think the only thing we can do in EU is to put pressure on EU parliament to not agree to the pact - that's all.

tszyn 15y ago

The blog post you linked says ACTA contains a three-strikes provision. That used to be true, but it isn't anymore. Just read the final text. Furthermore, I see nothing in ACTA that contradicts the ECJ ruling (ACTA does not say anything specific about ISP filtering) and I haven't seen any serious source claim that this ruling makes ACTA illegal.

tszyn 15y ago

This whole piece of news is total B.S. There is no last-minute ruling. There was a ruling of the ECJ on NOVEMBER 24, not January 24. See: http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/jcms/Jo2_16799/?annee=2011 http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/jcms/Jo2_16799/?annee=2011 The reason for the confusion is that PAP (Polish Press Agency) reported this "news" today, giving the wrong date, and all the major news outlets re-reported it without checking (how hard is it to go to the ECJ website?). TVN24 has now published a correction, but the information has already spread and now many people think ACTA has been made illegal. The truth is that the ECJ has never made any ruling about ACTA. It has only ruled that ISP filtering is illegal in the EU, but that is not directly in contradiction with ACTA.