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Can we not pretend people weren't already googling sample emails for this? It's just more efficient now to grab the same starter email that you then customize.

Can we not pretend people weren't already googling sample emails for this? It's just more efficient now to grab the same starter email that you then customize. Admittedly, google shouldn't be pretending otherwise, either. But what they also did was make it so you can get the starter email without having to see their ads. Edited to add: I think a better argument on this could he made about the "draft a thank you note to the team" example they give in the video. That's more the type of thing that should be personal and probably not from a starter template, googled or AI-generated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DaJVZBXETE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DaJVZBXETE But even here, the reality is people were googling for these starter emails already.

neap24 4y ago
Some were googling, for sure. But the best ones were not.
- melling 4y ago
  Down the rabbit hole with that… So, the best ones will still write their own and the others will save time. And by definition, most people aren’t the best. So, we all agree the automation is welcome?
  - dymk 4y ago
    The best ones know when to put in effort to show they care for another human being, and know when to automate a task where that doesn't matter. Welcoming somebody to a new job is the former.
- elicash 4y ago
  Does it matter to you the extent to which an original template is then transformed?
- la64710 4y ago
  And you don’t need only the best to run a business.
- paxys 4y ago
  The best ones hide it well enough.
ChatGTP 4y ago
Personally never had to Google to help me write the body of an email, if I had to do that, I probably wouldn't have sent the email to begin with.
bpicolo 4y ago
I don't really want to read (or "write") a bunch of impersonal junk written by AI. Can we skip this phase of technology? Edit: Maybe this will inspire the next wave of tech burnouts turned mushroom farmers
- monkeynotes 4y ago
  Piles of impersonal junk created by humans at work. People lope through life, especially work life, a lot. If you are doing repetitive welcome emails they are almost guaranteed to be impersonal, I don't think anyone could rinse and repeat personalized emails for hundreds of people without burning out.
  - waboremo 4y ago
    Just because lots of people do it, doesn't mean it has to continue to be done. If you're growing so fast you're sending hundreds of emails in a short time span, then maybe you should replace a pseudo-personal ai-written "welcome email" for new hires with something that scales better and feels personal.
    - monkeynotes 4y ago
      "Feels personal" is the problem that AI solves, isn't it? I mean there is a difference between "feels personal" and "is authentically personal". AI can definitely do the "feels". Besides that, it's not about how rapid you need to send these emails out. It's about how often it's done. If you had to write birthday cards to people you barely know every day, maybe it's only one a day, it's going to get rinse and repeat very quickly. All the ways of saying "have a great day" are going to get exhausted and whoever is writing it is going to feel insincere in a short amount of time. So why not just have the AI write this sort of thing? Slack bots welcome you to slack channels, when your email is set up there is a default welcome message. No one really cares, they just want to feel welcomed by something to break the ice. I don't think anyone really gives a stuff about how the message is written as long as it's honest. If I joined a company and the welcome email was signed off with "You friendly welcome bot", I'd be happier than some sort of boilerplate cut and paste message signed by a real person pretending they aren't writing the same thing for the 5th year in their job.
monkeynotes 4y ago
Simple answer to this: "Hi, I am company X's AI, I'd like to get to know you because we will be working together here and there <welcome message>." Basically endource the AI and be clear that it is the thing welcoming you. If you hide the fact an AI is pumping out an automated email it just comes across as if the business thinks of you as a drone.
- startupsfail 4y ago
  If the major contributor of an e-mail (or code) is an AI then it should be attributed to the AI in the signature/attribution fields. Otherwise the work is plagiarized.

neap24 4y ago

Some were googling, for sure. But the best ones were not.

melling 4y ago
Down the rabbit hole with that… So, the best ones will still write their own and the others will save time. And by definition, most people aren’t the best. So, we all agree the automation is welcome?
- dymk 4y ago
  The best ones know when to put in effort to show they care for another human being, and know when to automate a task where that doesn't matter. Welcoming somebody to a new job is the former.
elicash 4y ago
Does it matter to you the extent to which an original template is then transformed?
la64710 4y ago
And you don’t need only the best to run a business.
paxys 4y ago
The best ones hide it well enough.

ChatGTP 4y ago

Personally never had to Google to help me write the body of an email, if I had to do that, I probably wouldn't have sent the email to begin with.

bpicolo 4y ago

I don't really want to read (or "write") a bunch of impersonal junk written by AI. Can we skip this phase of technology? Edit: Maybe this will inspire the next wave of tech burnouts turned mushroom farmers

monkeynotes 4y ago
Piles of impersonal junk created by humans at work. People lope through life, especially work life, a lot. If you are doing repetitive welcome emails they are almost guaranteed to be impersonal, I don't think anyone could rinse and repeat personalized emails for hundreds of people without burning out.
- waboremo 4y ago
  Just because lots of people do it, doesn't mean it has to continue to be done. If you're growing so fast you're sending hundreds of emails in a short time span, then maybe you should replace a pseudo-personal ai-written "welcome email" for new hires with something that scales better and feels personal.
  - monkeynotes 4y ago
    "Feels personal" is the problem that AI solves, isn't it? I mean there is a difference between "feels personal" and "is authentically personal". AI can definitely do the "feels". Besides that, it's not about how rapid you need to send these emails out. It's about how often it's done. If you had to write birthday cards to people you barely know every day, maybe it's only one a day, it's going to get rinse and repeat very quickly. All the ways of saying "have a great day" are going to get exhausted and whoever is writing it is going to feel insincere in a short amount of time. So why not just have the AI write this sort of thing? Slack bots welcome you to slack channels, when your email is set up there is a default welcome message. No one really cares, they just want to feel welcomed by something to break the ice. I don't think anyone really gives a stuff about how the message is written as long as it's honest. If I joined a company and the welcome email was signed off with "You friendly welcome bot", I'd be happier than some sort of boilerplate cut and paste message signed by a real person pretending they aren't writing the same thing for the 5th year in their job.

monkeynotes 4y ago

Simple answer to this: "Hi, I am company X's AI, I'd like to get to know you because we will be working together here and there <welcome message>." Basically endource the AI and be clear that it is the thing welcoming you. If you hide the fact an AI is pumping out an automated email it just comes across as if the business thinks of you as a drone.

startupsfail 4y ago
If the major contributor of an e-mail (or code) is an AI then it should be attributed to the AI in the signature/attribution fields. Otherwise the work is plagiarized.