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Last week: Post surfaces saying that on 3/14 there'd be a mass layoff of managers & directors. Many people react that no way is this true 3/14: Zuck posts that

by jghn 4y ago

Last week: Post surfaces saying that on 3/14 there'd be a mass layoff of managers & directors. Many people react that no way is this true 3/14: Zuck posts that they're making their orgs "flatter", in other words laying off a bunch of managers & directors

elicash 4y ago
Not sure what thread you're referring to. I suppose maybe some people did think this wouldn't happen? But Zuckerberg publicly announced he was doing this flattening over a month ago. (Though we didn't the numbers until now.)
- rwc 4y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35100251 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35100251 Or, if you prefer: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-07/meta-is-said-to-plan-thousands-more-layoffs-as-soon-as-this-week https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-07/meta-is-s...
  - elicash 4y ago
    Seems like people were only skeptical of the specific dates given by an anonymous Blind user, just on the basis that it's an anonymous user. That's likely a good thing, even if it happened to be accurate! They weren't skeptical that layoffs were coming aimed at a flattening, which makes sense since this was already announced by Zuckerberg over a month ago.
- jghn 4y ago
  There were threads here, Reddit, and elsewhere. IIRC all pointing back to Blind. What I mention wasn't a universal opinion and apologies if I made it sound that way. But there was a much stronger segment than I would have expected thinking it was all a bunch of made up FUD
throwayyy479087 4y ago
I don't think this is line managers and their managers. I'm reading this as the people in the 5 levels above THEM, but below Zuck.
- llamaimperative 4y ago
  Those are called managers and directors.
  - throwayyy479087 4y ago
    I thought those are SVPs, EVPs, etc? "Manager" tends to be line managers, and Directors _their_ managers.
    - oblio 4y ago
      In many places you have 1-2 levels of regular managers, 1-2 levels of senior managers, then directors, maaaybe the first level of VP.

by jghn 4y ago

elicash 4y ago

Not sure what thread you're referring to. I suppose maybe some people did think this wouldn't happen? But Zuckerberg publicly announced he was doing this flattening over a month ago. (Though we didn't the numbers until now.)

rwc 4y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35100251 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35100251 Or, if you prefer: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-07/meta-is-said-to-plan-thousands-more-layoffs-as-soon-as-this-week https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-07/meta-is-s...
- elicash 4y ago
  Seems like people were only skeptical of the specific dates given by an anonymous Blind user, just on the basis that it's an anonymous user. That's likely a good thing, even if it happened to be accurate! They weren't skeptical that layoffs were coming aimed at a flattening, which makes sense since this was already announced by Zuckerberg over a month ago.
jghn 4y ago
There were threads here, Reddit, and elsewhere. IIRC all pointing back to Blind. What I mention wasn't a universal opinion and apologies if I made it sound that way. But there was a much stronger segment than I would have expected thinking it was all a bunch of made up FUD

throwayyy479087 4y ago

I don't think this is line managers and their managers. I'm reading this as the people in the 5 levels above THEM, but below Zuck.

llamaimperative 4y ago
Those are called managers and directors.
- throwayyy479087 4y ago
  I thought those are SVPs, EVPs, etc? "Manager" tends to be line managers, and Directors _their_ managers.
  - oblio 4y ago
    In many places you have 1-2 levels of regular managers, 1-2 levels of senior managers, then directors, maaaybe the first level of VP.