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Simply take a look at this table (the map is silly) and take your conclusion. https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/alzheimers-dementia/by-country

Simply take a look at this table (the map is silly) and take your conclusion. https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/alzheimers-dementia/by-country/ https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/alzheimer...

Pinegulf 4y ago
This may be very silly question, but does one die from Alzheimer's and dementia? Sure they make life miserable, but cause of death? Edit: I did look it up. It seems that this is indeed the case.
- pfortuny 4y ago
  I really do not know. See https://www.healthline.com/health/dementia/can-you-die-from-dementia https://www.healthline.com/health/dementia/can-you-die-from-... but I do not have a truly reliable source.
adhesive_wombat 4y ago
Bulgaria and Albania at completely opposite ends of the table with a 50-fold rate difference between them makes me go "hmm". Or Singapore being right at the very bottom, 40 times less that Malaysia, and 20 times less than Japan. It feels like this might be a table of countries that do and do not often include dementia as a cause of death.
- pfortuny 4y ago
  Well, looking at extremes is not the best way to analyze general data.
  - adhesive_wombat 4y ago
    Do you genuinely think a 50-fold difference in dementia incidence sounds remotely plausible? That would probably be the strongest incidence gradient signal in medical history. Dementia research would be laser-focussed on the Albania-North Macedonia-Bulgaria axis and the Singapore-Malaysia axis as they'd be near-ideal comparative populations. If the data isn't compatible, the table doesn't mean much at all, since it has merged reporting bias with the actual incidence rates.
dgrin91 4y ago
My conclusion is (1) god this map is terrible. My eyes, dear god. Why is the clear button blinking? But on a more serious note (2) there isn't really a conclusion to be drawn from this map. Correlations are all over the place. Some western countries are high, but others are low. African countries are mostly high (because green is second highest for some reason). This map also does not correlate with age. I'm sure countries with a longer average lifespan have higher rates of Alzheimers/Dementia deaths. E.g. Russia has a lower average lifespan and a low rate of Alzheimers/Dementia deaths. That may be correlated.
- pfortuny 4y ago
  No, I only wanted you to look at the mediterranean nations BUT on the table, not the map. Clearly much lower than UK, US, Finland. That is enough for me.
  - dgrin91 4y ago
    Italy, Greece & Egype are low, but basically al others are high? Spain, France, Turkey, Libya, Morroco? I'm not really sure what is it that is enough for you.

Pinegulf 4y ago

This may be very silly question, but does one die from Alzheimer's and dementia? Sure they make life miserable, but cause of death? Edit: I did look it up. It seems that this is indeed the case.

pfortuny 4y ago
I really do not know. See https://www.healthline.com/health/dementia/can-you-die-from-dementia https://www.healthline.com/health/dementia/can-you-die-from-... but I do not have a truly reliable source.

adhesive_wombat 4y ago

Bulgaria and Albania at completely opposite ends of the table with a 50-fold rate difference between them makes me go "hmm". Or Singapore being right at the very bottom, 40 times less that Malaysia, and 20 times less than Japan. It feels like this might be a table of countries that do and do not often include dementia as a cause of death.

pfortuny 4y ago
Well, looking at extremes is not the best way to analyze general data.
- adhesive_wombat 4y ago
  Do you genuinely think a 50-fold difference in dementia incidence sounds remotely plausible? That would probably be the strongest incidence gradient signal in medical history. Dementia research would be laser-focussed on the Albania-North Macedonia-Bulgaria axis and the Singapore-Malaysia axis as they'd be near-ideal comparative populations. If the data isn't compatible, the table doesn't mean much at all, since it has merged reporting bias with the actual incidence rates.

dgrin91 4y ago

My conclusion is (1) god this map is terrible. My eyes, dear god. Why is the clear button blinking? But on a more serious note (2) there isn't really a conclusion to be drawn from this map. Correlations are all over the place. Some western countries are high, but others are low. African countries are mostly high (because green is second highest for some reason). This map also does not correlate with age. I'm sure countries with a longer average lifespan have higher rates of Alzheimers/Dementia deaths. E.g. Russia has a lower average lifespan and a low rate of Alzheimers/Dementia deaths. That may be correlated.

pfortuny 4y ago
No, I only wanted you to look at the mediterranean nations BUT on the table, not the map. Clearly much lower than UK, US, Finland. That is enough for me.
- dgrin91 4y ago
  Italy, Greece & Egype are low, but basically al others are high? Spain, France, Turkey, Libya, Morroco? I'm not really sure what is it that is enough for you.