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I always wondered why the A/C units installed in the US do not make heat as well. In europe I have seen a push for this kind of units for at least 20 years now,

by pokot0 4y ago

I always wondered why the A/C units installed in the US do not make heat as well. In europe I have seen a push for this kind of units for at least 20 years now, to the point that I don't think anyone has bought anything else for the past 10. It seems your challenge is more about changing a status quo market then introducing a technology disruption that it's already been there for a long time now.

STM32F030R8 4y ago
Heat pumps are very common in the US. That part isn’t really a challenge.
- malfist 4y ago
  Heat pumps are super common, in the southern US I would be willing to bet you can't build a house without one, even geothermal is a heat pump. I don't get what this startup is offering. Heat pumps are common and readily accessible, I can walk into lowes and buy one today and they can arrange a contractor to do the install. It'll be a lot less expensive this this setup. If your business plan starts with "X is rare and hard to find" and X is actually extremely common, you're not going to be successful.
lsaferite 4y ago
In the South-East US we've used Heat Pumps for at least 35-40+ years. Probably longer, I'm just lowering the number because I was a kid and don't know when they became the norm exactly. We don't have strong winters here so even the older heat pumps were fine with keeping houses warm. And we had/have resistive electric heating to supplement if the temp dropped too fast or too low.
- cmui 4y ago
  You're right, heat pumps have been around for a while, but they're only at 15% market share across the whole US. The Southeast, for a few different reasons, has the highest market share. (1) It doesn't get that cold, and magnitude of heating/cooling loads are close enough that single stage equipment provides an OK experience. (2) There's very little natural gas infrastructure. Cold weather heat pumps have recently become popular and enable increased adoption in the northeast, and the fact they're so efficient means they're competitive even in areas with a lot of natural gas infrastructure.

by pokot0 4y ago

STM32F030R8 4y ago

Heat pumps are very common in the US. That part isn’t really a challenge.

malfist 4y ago
Heat pumps are super common, in the southern US I would be willing to bet you can't build a house without one, even geothermal is a heat pump. I don't get what this startup is offering. Heat pumps are common and readily accessible, I can walk into lowes and buy one today and they can arrange a contractor to do the install. It'll be a lot less expensive this this setup. If your business plan starts with "X is rare and hard to find" and X is actually extremely common, you're not going to be successful.

lsaferite 4y ago

In the South-East US we've used Heat Pumps for at least 35-40+ years. Probably longer, I'm just lowering the number because I was a kid and don't know when they became the norm exactly. We don't have strong winters here so even the older heat pumps were fine with keeping houses warm. And we had/have resistive electric heating to supplement if the temp dropped too fast or too low.

cmui 4y ago
You're right, heat pumps have been around for a while, but they're only at 15% market share across the whole US. The Southeast, for a few different reasons, has the highest market share. (1) It doesn't get that cold, and magnitude of heating/cooling loads are close enough that single stage equipment provides an OK experience. (2) There's very little natural gas infrastructure. Cold weather heat pumps have recently become popular and enable increased adoption in the northeast, and the fact they're so efficient means they're competitive even in areas with a lot of natural gas infrastructure.