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> Microsoft is very aware thanks, that is comforting > the cat is out of the bag even if you don't like it thanks for bullying us around > the legitimately

> Microsoft is very aware thanks, that is comforting > the cat is out of the bag even if you don't like it thanks for bullying us around > the legitimately talented AI thinkers who exactly authorised you to project legitimacy in a space that has not seen any regulation?

sebzim4500 4y ago
>thanks for bullying us around Who is bullying who exactly? >who exactly authorised you to project legitimacy in a space that has not seen any regulation? He's using the second meaning of 'legitimate' able to be defended with logic or justification; valid.
- djvdq 4y ago
  >Who is bullying who exactly? People telling that we shouldn't worry about such topic, because companies are aware of them. Because companies never did bad things just to earn more, right?
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CatWChainsaw 4y ago
Seriously. Why is it that in a forum skewed libertarian techbros, there's this nigh-religious faith that corporations will not only get AI right, but get its impacts on society right? You know, with their stellar track record and all. To me this is just another of countless demonstrations of silicon valley ego/hubris.
- Nasrudith 4y ago
  Wait? you think you know better than thousands of other people who dedicate their lives to the topic, assume ideology and attack them with slurs and you think /they/ are the ones with too much ego and hubris? Dunning-Kruger effect much?
  - college_physics 4y ago
    > thousands of other people who dedicate their lives to the topic to make it plain to you, there were thousands of slave traders who dedicated their lives to the topic, including e.g. how to optimally fill-up the ship with bodies. what does this prove? the idea that meticulous pursuit of a domain somehow gives it its experts the moral high ground or ensures that they will keep it safe for society is so bizarre and alarming it only reinforces the notion that a bunch of people have become completely unhinged AI practitioners have already proved themselves untrustworthy by putting themselves in the service of entities that invaded privacy and engaged in large scale algorithmic manipulation of e.g. voting. This is not an assumption. Its a dire fact. More broadly, corporate structures have repeatedly proved themselves untrustworthy, both in the small, with scandals and fraud and at-large, with regulatory capture that ensured their negative impacts on society could go unhindered for decades
  - CatWChainsaw 4y ago
    Did I hit a nerve of yours? Maybe you see a little too much of yourself in my comment? If you think that the risk of getting technology catastrophically wrong is more than a passing philosophical diversion to your "thousands", when we've all heard "move fast and break things" ad nauseum, maybe you should be examining your DK blind spots instead of accusing someone else of the same. Also, is "libertarian techbro" a slur now? Or are you just resentful that I compared faith in progress to faith in a deity?

sebzim4500 4y ago

>thanks for bullying us around Who is bullying who exactly? >who exactly authorised you to project legitimacy in a space that has not seen any regulation? He's using the second meaning of 'legitimate' able to be defended with logic or justification; valid.

djvdq 4y ago
>Who is bullying who exactly? People telling that we shouldn't worry about such topic, because companies are aware of them. Because companies never did bad things just to earn more, right?

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CatWChainsaw 4y ago

Seriously. Why is it that in a forum skewed libertarian techbros, there's this nigh-religious faith that corporations will not only get AI right, but get its impacts on society right? You know, with their stellar track record and all. To me this is just another of countless demonstrations of silicon valley ego/hubris.

Nasrudith 4y ago
Wait? you think you know better than thousands of other people who dedicate their lives to the topic, assume ideology and attack them with slurs and you think /they/ are the ones with too much ego and hubris? Dunning-Kruger effect much?
- college_physics 4y ago
  > thousands of other people who dedicate their lives to the topic to make it plain to you, there were thousands of slave traders who dedicated their lives to the topic, including e.g. how to optimally fill-up the ship with bodies. what does this prove? the idea that meticulous pursuit of a domain somehow gives it its experts the moral high ground or ensures that they will keep it safe for society is so bizarre and alarming it only reinforces the notion that a bunch of people have become completely unhinged AI practitioners have already proved themselves untrustworthy by putting themselves in the service of entities that invaded privacy and engaged in large scale algorithmic manipulation of e.g. voting. This is not an assumption. Its a dire fact. More broadly, corporate structures have repeatedly proved themselves untrustworthy, both in the small, with scandals and fraud and at-large, with regulatory capture that ensured their negative impacts on society could go unhindered for decades
- CatWChainsaw 4y ago
  Did I hit a nerve of yours? Maybe you see a little too much of yourself in my comment? If you think that the risk of getting technology catastrophically wrong is more than a passing philosophical diversion to your "thousands", when we've all heard "move fast and break things" ad nauseum, maybe you should be examining your DK blind spots instead of accusing someone else of the same. Also, is "libertarian techbro" a slur now? Or are you just resentful that I compared faith in progress to faith in a deity?