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That's not how it works. The url was ipfs, which is immutable and is a hash by itself.

illiarian 4y ago
>The url was ipfs, which is immutable and is a hash by itself. 1. For the majority (perhaps even vast majority) it was never pointing to ipfs, but to some server running somewhere. 2. On ipfs files will disappear eventually if there's no one to pay for their storage
- nailer 4y ago
  1. Sites like https://nft.storage/ https://nft.storage/ (which I dislike as they have a silly bug with content types) or Pinata also go to IPFS. Just because the https URL doesn't look like a well known IPFS HTTP gateway doesn't mean it's not on IPFS. 2. Good point. I haven't investigated this but I should.
  - illiarian 4y ago
    https://www.rightclicksave.com/article/how-many-nfts-are-actually-on-the-blockchain https://www.rightclicksave.com/article/how-many-nfts-are-act... 66.44% of NFTs are HTTP (centralised servers) and only 23.81% are on IPFS even when taking into account the gateways
    - nailer 4y ago
      That’s not what that report says: > Put simply, ~10% of NFTs are on-chain, ~40% of NFTs are on private servers and are doomed, and ~50% remaining are on IPFS. 40% is the doomed figure. Which is way too high but there’s a lot of idiots minting shitty NFTs. Since the study wasn’t limited to NFTs on marketplaces (like we’re discussing here) that doesn’t surprise me.
      - illiarian 4y ago
        Yes, I misread that. Still, due to how IPFS operates, the majority of those assets will be gone, too. Example from infura: https://community.infura.io/t/does-data-that-hasnt-been-used-in-the-past-6-months-get-deleted/3423 https://community.infura.io/t/does-data-that-hasnt-been-used... --- start quote --- if the data you’ve pinned to IPFS is not accessed within the 6 month period, our garbage collecting system will delete the data. In order to keep data around indefinitely, you will need to access it somehow at least every 6 months. --- end quote --- And more on Hedera: https://hedera.com/blog/nft-storage-why-it-matters https://hedera.com/blog/nft-storage-why-it-matters I can't find the article now. IIRC someone crawled through OpenSea NFTs and the majority of the assets were gone.

>The url was ipfs, which is immutable and is a hash by itself. 1. For the majority (perhaps even vast majority) it was never pointing to ipfs, but to some server running somewhere. 2. On ipfs files will disappear eventually if there's no one to pay for their storage

nailer 4y ago
1. Sites like https://nft.storage/ https://nft.storage/ (which I dislike as they have a silly bug with content types) or Pinata also go to IPFS. Just because the https URL doesn't look like a well known IPFS HTTP gateway doesn't mean it's not on IPFS. 2. Good point. I haven't investigated this but I should.
- illiarian 4y ago
  https://www.rightclicksave.com/article/how-many-nfts-are-actually-on-the-blockchain https://www.rightclicksave.com/article/how-many-nfts-are-act... 66.44% of NFTs are HTTP (centralised servers) and only 23.81% are on IPFS even when taking into account the gateways
  - nailer 4y ago
    That’s not what that report says: > Put simply, ~10% of NFTs are on-chain, ~40% of NFTs are on private servers and are doomed, and ~50% remaining are on IPFS. 40% is the doomed figure. Which is way too high but there’s a lot of idiots minting shitty NFTs. Since the study wasn’t limited to NFTs on marketplaces (like we’re discussing here) that doesn’t surprise me.
    - illiarian 4y ago
      Yes, I misread that. Still, due to how IPFS operates, the majority of those assets will be gone, too. Example from infura: https://community.infura.io/t/does-data-that-hasnt-been-used-in-the-past-6-months-get-deleted/3423 https://community.infura.io/t/does-data-that-hasnt-been-used... --- start quote --- if the data you’ve pinned to IPFS is not accessed within the 6 month period, our garbage collecting system will delete the data. In order to keep data around indefinitely, you will need to access it somehow at least every 6 months. --- end quote --- And more on Hedera: https://hedera.com/blog/nft-storage-why-it-matters https://hedera.com/blog/nft-storage-why-it-matters I can't find the article now. IIRC someone crawled through OpenSea NFTs and the majority of the assets were gone.