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>Speaking of speculation, you have ZERO backing for your conjectures about why posts from Winsupersite get buried or simply don't make the front page Try submi
by cooldeal 15y ago
>Speaking of speculation, you have ZERO backing for your conjectures about why posts from Winsupersite get buried or simply don't make the front page
Try submitting a story from Winsupersite, it will be instantly dead. That either means it was heavily flagged in the past that the system auto-kills any submission from it, or it was singled out by a moderator.
>Update: The problem here is that we have anonymous/opaque voting, moderation, and flagging. Without showing me a collection of stories that received massive upvotes but never made the front page, we have no evidence of moderation or flagging, just evidence that your interests are in the minority.
Eg. see this post complaining but no action was taken.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3408883 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3408883
I am not even complaining that the stories are not voted up, it is that they're completely banned. If it was Daring Fireball(Winsupersite is basically the Microsoft equivalent of that) that was banned, HN would go completely ballistic.
Not to mention that fact that Gruber's deprecating and sometimes misinformed takes on important Microsoft announcements get more traction here than the actual news itself.
Do you really see anything on that site which makes any submission to it instantly dead other than that it's Microsoft-centric reporting which seems to be its only sin?
- rwolf 15y agoI too was interested in the daringfireball comparison: * http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/winsupersite.com http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/winsupersite.com * http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/daringfireball.net http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/daringfireball.net At about twice the rank and 3 times the inbound links, it looks like Reality itself is a fanboy.
- cooldeal 15y agoHow is that relevant? Did I say Winsupersite was popular? A bad Alexa rank causes the site to be banned on HN?
- raganwald 15y agoComparing Daring Fireball to Winsupersite is interesting. Every time a DF article is posted, there are many, many comments that are negative about Gruber. So clearly, it is posible for an author and site to beintensely disliked by a sizeable portion of HN readers but not get banned. As you said, it is possible that stories in the past were flagged. And? Does that etablish that the stories flagged in the past were flagged by so-called fanboys? No, only that stories in the past were flagged. Likewise, you say yourself that moderators may be killing the stories by hand. How is this evidence of so-called fanboys? There are other possibilities: The HN software may have detected voting rings. What if a bunch of people were submitting stories and voting them onto the front page? Maybe the fanboys were actually pro-Winsupersite!!! Again, we just don't know, and these arguments seem to come down to "People are flagging/banning stuff I like, so there must be fanboys at work, because any rational person would agree with my views." Friend, many of my own posts get flagged or banned and I don't take it personally or think of the flaggers in opproprious terms. Shrug this one off. We don't know the whole story, why construct explanations for what we observe in a negative light?