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Where does the training data come from? Humans have traditionally sucked at drawing hands.
by leroy-is-here 4y ago
Where does the training data come from? Humans have traditionally sucked at drawing hands.
- yosefk 4y agoYou mean humans traditionally drew hands with 7 fingers and other such? I have a hard time remembering a single human drawing "sucking" in the way AI-generated hands do.
- kragen 4y ago3 fingers is pretty common because it's easier to get a 3-fingered hand to look okay but yeah humans rarely draw 7-fingered hands or smiles with four rows of 40 teeth
- jsjohnst 4y ago> but yeah humans rarely draw 7-fingered hands Guess you haven’t seen hand drawings done by young children?
- bluefirebrand 4y agoSurely you aren't suggesting that many drawings by young children are in the AI training models and that's why it sucks at drawing hands?
- jsjohnst 4y agoNope, not that at all. I was replying directly to the quoted sentence of GP’s post with a clear and direct rebuttal against it.
- kragen 4y agoi was trying to remember if young children often did this, but came to the conclusion that they only do it rarely
- est 4y ago> I have a hard time remembering a single human drawing "sucking" in the way AI-generated hands do. That's because yourself as a human being already owns a pair of hand, you can look at it everyday. Now try draw the hands/feet of some animal you've heard of without a photo. e.g. hands of a sloth
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- ilkke 4y agoThat's not the source of the problem. In layman terms, most fingers are flanked by two fingers and the ai does what is "statistically more accurate". It doesn't have a solid big picture context and gets lost in local detail, similar to kids' drawings. The role of training data is that hands are extremely expressive and commonly shown in very complex positions in the training images. AI is equally inept with complex body postures and contortions. But as it has been said, there are already models and workflows that improve the results significantly.
- leroy-is-here 4y agoI think the human element shouldn’t be lost here. Remember, the goal of AI is to have a human brain on demand, but just a bit better than human. It sounds like every complexity there could apply to why humans suck at drawing hands.