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I'm going to take your argument as a sincere argument and not an ad hominem attack that is sounds like. I can tell from your comment that you have a specific pe

I'm going to take your argument as a sincere argument and not an ad hominem attack that is sounds like. I can tell from your comment that you have a specific perspective on this. I can assure you that I do not. But, if you asked someone high up in the Russian military do you think they would tell you that they invaded Ukraine? I am going to suggest they might say that they read the writing on the wall and sent early armaments to protect themselves. I understand that you would think this is a lie. But, I am just saying from their perspective they would say they have done nothing wrong and are protecting themselves. Ukraine, would say they were minding their own business and Russia attacked them after multiple threats for no reason. That is not to say I think Russia is telling the truth. Just that from their perspective they are not doing anything wrong. And as a side note, even if you are passionate about a subject it is a more powerful argument to attack the idea, not the person. That is childish ... although I will admit it used daily for political arguments in the US.

SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
Thank you for that large helping of word salad. My advice to you is to learn to think and write clearly, call out BS when you hear it, and not interpret that as "ad hominem attack". I don't know what you mean "by specific perspective" that I have whereas you pretend objectivity. But, being neutral in situations of injustice is not "objectivity", it is choosing the side of the oppressor. As to the idea Russia would say "they have done nothing wrong and are protecting themselves" well, they would say that, wouldn't they? You do not have to take it at face value after the facts on the ground clash with it. The idea that Russia had to do it (send troops across the border) to protect themselves is nonsense, not even logically consistent with what you said before: "It didn't happen, and you made me do it." It's the logic of a narcistic abuser. A full-scale invasion clearly happened and is ongoing. You repeat "from their perspective they are not doing anything wrong" without addressing that this is not a factual perspective, it is a disinformation. I never said and Ukraine will not say ,that Russia attacked "for no reason", just that the reasons are selfish, greedy, cruel, undemocratic and intolerant; and not as you present them.
- mhuffman 4y ago
  >call out BS when you hear it I think I just did, no?
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    Well, try and say it simply without dressing it up, e.g. "BS, Russia did not invade Ukraine, and Ukraine made them do it" and see just how delusional it sounds.
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SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago

Thank you for that large helping of word salad. My advice to you is to learn to think and write clearly, call out BS when you hear it, and not interpret that as "ad hominem attack". I don't know what you mean "by specific perspective" that I have whereas you pretend objectivity. But, being neutral in situations of injustice is not "objectivity", it is choosing the side of the oppressor. As to the idea Russia would say "they have done nothing wrong and are protecting themselves" well, they would say that, wouldn't they? You do not have to take it at face value after the facts on the ground clash with it. The idea that Russia had to do it (send troops across the border) to protect themselves is nonsense, not even logically consistent with what you said before: "It didn't happen, and you made me do it." It's the logic of a narcistic abuser. A full-scale invasion clearly happened and is ongoing. You repeat "from their perspective they are not doing anything wrong" without addressing that this is not a factual perspective, it is a disinformation. I never said and Ukraine will not say ,that Russia attacked "for no reason", just that the reasons are selfish, greedy, cruel, undemocratic and intolerant; and not as you present them.

mhuffman 4y ago
>call out BS when you hear it I think I just did, no?
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  Well, try and say it simply without dressing it up, e.g. "BS, Russia did not invade Ukraine, and Ukraine made them do it" and see just how delusional it sounds.

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