I know a few libertarians, and I've never heard any of them say "we don't need government services". I think that's the straw man version of libertarianism, the

I know a few libertarians, and I've never heard any of them say "we don't need government services". I think that's the straw man version of libertarianism, the one that's easiest to dismiss. It's always a question of which services are best provided by the government, and which are best provided by private entities, or partnership of the two. Different libertarians arrive at different definitions of "state capacity". I really don't think of that philosophically as being quite as simple as it's portrayed a lot of the time. In fact, I'd say it's harder to predict what a libertarian believes, since that group has more than its share of contrarians.