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I think this is why he bought Twitter (although I don't endorse the decision). If you can access space from phones and he runs the worlds open messaging system

I think this is why he bought Twitter (although I don't endorse the decision). If you can access space from phones and he runs the worlds open messaging system that would change a lot... specifically because then governments would have a harder time turning off the internet. I don't see how he could profit massively from that but I do see how it might create something bigger than the arab spring around the world.

tjoff 4y ago
Not sure how twitter changes the equation? Lock down internet so only twitter works for free?
- dubcanada 4y ago
  communication :)
  - tjoff 4y ago
    You can't communicate without twitter?
    - x-complexity 4y ago
      > You can't communicate without twitter? I think that GP was talking about mass communication, specifically the receiving part. Communication can be broken down into 3 parts: Sending the message, & receiving the message. Sending the message is straightforward & more or less a solved problem. Receiving the message is different depending on whether it's only for one/(a few) people or the general public: The former's also a solved problem, & can be made censorship resistant and tamperproof. The current unsolved problem is broadcasting a message out to the general public whilst being censorship resistant.
      - tjoff 4y ago
        Microsoft solved this with the likes of winpopup and net send decades ago...
        x-complexity 4y ago
        1) > > Sending the message is straightforward & more or less a solved problem. 2) > > Receiving the message is different depending on whether it's only for one/(a few) people or the general public: The former's also a solved problem, & can be made censorship resistant and tamperproof. 3) > > The current unsolved problem is broadcasting a message out to the general public whilst being censorship resistant. > Microsoft solved this with the likes of winpopup and net send decades ago... (This is in direct response to the parent supposedly replying to (3)) https://winpopup-lan-messenger.com/ https://winpopup-lan-messenger.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Messenger_service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Messenger_service The listed solutions only solve (1) and (2), and only in specific circumstances: (3) has still not been fully solved in a censorship resistant manner. winpopup & net send are only applicable to the devices within a LAN, whilst the solution for (3) needs to be abe to broadcast to everyone in the public space (including people outside of the LAN). To reiterate: For (3) to be solved, the proposed solution needs to give their users the ability to receive *publicly* broadcasted messages whilst being censorship resistant. -1 to parent.
        tjoff 4y ago
        It was tongue in cheek to highlight the problems associated with it. Twitter by no means even attempts to solve this so it is hard to imagine what you are trying to imply. It is also kind of irrelevant. Because if it worked it wouldn't be usable, you can't let anyone broadcast to anyone it would be spammed to death - something that has been demonstrated with net send. If by broadcast you mean publish that becomes another thing, but that just creates a needle people need to find. And twitter is not a good solution to that either, even if it was censorship resistant. So again, your point is rather muddy.
    - MrOwnPut 4y ago
      Government agencies and many companies only seem to be accessible via Twitter. It's also the place to find, listen, and reply to public figures. To sum it up, it's the main place to "broadcast" your message to the world.
      - tjoff 4y ago
        That might have been true a decade ago, would not agree today. In particular I don't think oppressive governments that want to censor or shutdown Internet would be particularly accessible from twitter...
outworlder 4y ago
> I don't see how he could profit massively from that It wasn't his reason, then.
__MatrixMan__ 4y ago
> I don't see how he could profit massively from that If you can cause the citizenry to get riled up against whichever government is threatening to regulate your endeavors into oblivion, then you can use it as a threat to prevent governments from doing that.

tjoff 4y ago

Not sure how twitter changes the equation? Lock down internet so only twitter works for free?

dubcanada 4y ago
communication :)
- tjoff 4y ago
  You can't communicate without twitter?
  - x-complexity 4y ago
    > You can't communicate without twitter? I think that GP was talking about mass communication, specifically the receiving part. Communication can be broken down into 3 parts: Sending the message, & receiving the message. Sending the message is straightforward & more or less a solved problem. Receiving the message is different depending on whether it's only for one/(a few) people or the general public: The former's also a solved problem, & can be made censorship resistant and tamperproof. The current unsolved problem is broadcasting a message out to the general public whilst being censorship resistant.
    - tjoff 4y ago
      Microsoft solved this with the likes of winpopup and net send decades ago...
      - x-complexity 4y ago
        1) > > Sending the message is straightforward & more or less a solved problem. 2) > > Receiving the message is different depending on whether it's only for one/(a few) people or the general public: The former's also a solved problem, & can be made censorship resistant and tamperproof. 3) > > The current unsolved problem is broadcasting a message out to the general public whilst being censorship resistant. > Microsoft solved this with the likes of winpopup and net send decades ago... (This is in direct response to the parent supposedly replying to (3)) https://winpopup-lan-messenger.com/ https://winpopup-lan-messenger.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Messenger_service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Messenger_service The listed solutions only solve (1) and (2), and only in specific circumstances: (3) has still not been fully solved in a censorship resistant manner. winpopup & net send are only applicable to the devices within a LAN, whilst the solution for (3) needs to be abe to broadcast to everyone in the public space (including people outside of the LAN). To reiterate: For (3) to be solved, the proposed solution needs to give their users the ability to receive *publicly* broadcasted messages whilst being censorship resistant. -1 to parent.
        tjoff 4y ago
        It was tongue in cheek to highlight the problems associated with it. Twitter by no means even attempts to solve this so it is hard to imagine what you are trying to imply. It is also kind of irrelevant. Because if it worked it wouldn't be usable, you can't let anyone broadcast to anyone it would be spammed to death - something that has been demonstrated with net send. If by broadcast you mean publish that becomes another thing, but that just creates a needle people need to find. And twitter is not a good solution to that either, even if it was censorship resistant. So again, your point is rather muddy.
  - MrOwnPut 4y ago
    Government agencies and many companies only seem to be accessible via Twitter. It's also the place to find, listen, and reply to public figures. To sum it up, it's the main place to "broadcast" your message to the world.
    - tjoff 4y ago
      That might have been true a decade ago, would not agree today. In particular I don't think oppressive governments that want to censor or shutdown Internet would be particularly accessible from twitter...

outworlder 4y ago

> I don't see how he could profit massively from that It wasn't his reason, then.

__MatrixMan__ 4y ago

> I don't see how he could profit massively from that If you can cause the citizenry to get riled up against whichever government is threatening to regulate your endeavors into oblivion, then you can use it as a threat to prevent governments from doing that.