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> On one hand, it aligns with my ethics to shut-down the operations of sanctioned companies to minimize their harm. Only if the sanctions are warranted by ethi

> On one hand, it aligns with my ethics to shut-down the operations of sanctioned companies to minimize their harm. Only if the sanctions are warranted by ethics. Which they are not, in this case - there isn't anything online I can find which supports sanctioning this specific company. This is a repeating pattern in this conflict: even without substantial or even circumstantial proof that a russian company benefits from or at least tolerates the war, in the event Ukraine tells us to sanction the respective company, we have to obey or else. What do we expect? Should all russian companies shut down because of the war? Would this be what we expect from all western companies, like when we attacked Iraq because of Weapons of Mass Destruction? This is slowly really getting ridiculous. Even more so if this opens up an attack vector from even more non-friendlies because of an orphaned github account.

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kofejnik 4y ago
Every Russian company needs to be sanctioned. Especially a tech one.
- ChoGGi 4y ago
  Sad you're being down voted. I feel bad for Russian companies being sanctioned, but I feel worse for Ukranians defending their country.
  - ocdtrekkie 4y ago
    The best thing for Russian citizens is also full withdrawal from Ukrainian territory. Generally speaking, any nonviolent actions which speed that outcome are inherently good for Russian civilians, who will be drastically better off once this war has ended.
yencabulator 4y ago
As seen elsewhere in these HN comments: https://sanctions.nazk.gov.ua/en/sanction-company/6813/ https://sanctions.nazk.gov.ua/en/sanction-company/6813/ > Putin has publicly stated his concerns about Russia’s access to microelectronics > To further increase pressure on Russia’s electronics sector, the Department of State is designating numerous advanced Russian electronics entities. > Limited Liability Company Yadro Fab Dubna is implementing a project to create Russia’s largest modern production plant for the production of circuit boards
smsm42 4y ago
> there isn't anything online I can find which supports sanctioning this specific company. They are a part of Russia's electronic manufacturing infrastructure. Electronics like the one used in the missiles that fall on Ukrainian residential buildings, schools, hospitals, civilian power supplies, and so on. As such, the ethics is pretty clear - until Russia stops the terror campaign against Ukrainian civilians (at least), any company that is involved in enabling this campaign is ethically evil. It's not some complex conundrum - if a missile hits a residential high-rise, and you took part in making that missile, then you participated in that crime, even if indirectly. > Should all russian companies shut down because of the war? All that contribute to the war effort - yes, that would be a nice thing. Not really possible, practically, but nice. Realistically, probably only the most prominent get sanctioned, and they probably won't be shut down - just cut off from using Western resources. > Would this be what we expect from all western companies, like when we attacked Iraq because of Weapons of Mass Destruction? If Iraq wants to sanction all western companies, they are certainly free to do so. So far I don't think they had a slightest inclination to do it.
- kombine 4y ago
  > If Iraq wants to sanction all western companies, they are certainly free to do so. So far I don't think they had a slightest inclination to do it. So with that you are basically suggesting that it's completely fine for the US to fight the wars of aggression and not be punished for this in any way, just because of its dominant economic position? And if Russia were a technological powerhouse like US, it would have been fine for it to invade Ukraine? This is disgusting.
- TheHappyOddish 4y ago
  > As such, the ethics is pretty clear - until Russia stops the terror campaign against Ukrainian civilians (at least), any company that is involved in enabling this campaign is ethically evil. And you'd agree the American companies and people involved in the blatent terror campaign against civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 20 years are also ethically evil?
  - eighthave 4y ago

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kofejnik 4y ago

Every Russian company needs to be sanctioned. Especially a tech one.

ChoGGi 4y ago
Sad you're being down voted. I feel bad for Russian companies being sanctioned, but I feel worse for Ukranians defending their country.
- ocdtrekkie 4y ago
  The best thing for Russian citizens is also full withdrawal from Ukrainian territory. Generally speaking, any nonviolent actions which speed that outcome are inherently good for Russian civilians, who will be drastically better off once this war has ended.

yencabulator 4y ago

As seen elsewhere in these HN comments: https://sanctions.nazk.gov.ua/en/sanction-company/6813/ https://sanctions.nazk.gov.ua/en/sanction-company/6813/ > Putin has publicly stated his concerns about Russia’s access to microelectronics > To further increase pressure on Russia’s electronics sector, the Department of State is designating numerous advanced Russian electronics entities. > Limited Liability Company Yadro Fab Dubna is implementing a project to create Russia’s largest modern production plant for the production of circuit boards

smsm42 4y ago

> there isn't anything online I can find which supports sanctioning this specific company. They are a part of Russia's electronic manufacturing infrastructure. Electronics like the one used in the missiles that fall on Ukrainian residential buildings, schools, hospitals, civilian power supplies, and so on. As such, the ethics is pretty clear - until Russia stops the terror campaign against Ukrainian civilians (at least), any company that is involved in enabling this campaign is ethically evil. It's not some complex conundrum - if a missile hits a residential high-rise, and you took part in making that missile, then you participated in that crime, even if indirectly. > Should all russian companies shut down because of the war? All that contribute to the war effort - yes, that would be a nice thing. Not really possible, practically, but nice. Realistically, probably only the most prominent get sanctioned, and they probably won't be shut down - just cut off from using Western resources. > Would this be what we expect from all western companies, like when we attacked Iraq because of Weapons of Mass Destruction? If Iraq wants to sanction all western companies, they are certainly free to do so. So far I don't think they had a slightest inclination to do it.

kombine 4y ago
> If Iraq wants to sanction all western companies, they are certainly free to do so. So far I don't think they had a slightest inclination to do it. So with that you are basically suggesting that it's completely fine for the US to fight the wars of aggression and not be punished for this in any way, just because of its dominant economic position? And if Russia were a technological powerhouse like US, it would have been fine for it to invade Ukraine? This is disgusting.
TheHappyOddish 4y ago
> As such, the ethics is pretty clear - until Russia stops the terror campaign against Ukrainian civilians (at least), any company that is involved in enabling this campaign is ethically evil. And you'd agree the American companies and people involved in the blatent terror campaign against civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 20 years are also ethically evil?
- eighthave 4y ago