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You should probably look at the link my guy. 13/20 of those definitely aren't Libertarians.

by _ktx2 4y ago

yunwal 4y ago
I don’t care about what political party they belong to. Do they regularly argue to slash regulations on the basis of government=bad? Do they routinely try to convince people that technology companies should be in charge of social organization rather than the government? This is the type of shit that gets talked about at VC conferences all the time: https://youtu.be/K8JIzP8HmjQ https://youtu.be/K8JIzP8HmjQ
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- _ktx2 4y ago
  Great, so sounds like we've found the actual culprit then. Technology companies and investors, despite their political affiliations, actually like a hands off environment. Do you understand how that's a little different from your Libertarian strawman?
  - yunwal 4y ago
    Libertarian is not just a political party. It’s a set of ideas and beliefs. VCs and founders in SV routinely espouse these beliefs and try to pull both major parties in their direction. There are plenty of communists out there voting for democrats but that doesn’t make them not communists.
    - _ktx2 4y ago
      > Libertarian is not just a political party. Libertarian - a political party libertarian - an ideology I'm pretty unwilling to say that both a journalist and yunwal don't understand capitalization.
      - yunwal 4y ago
        Sometimes you capitalize words because they’re the first word in a sentence. What point are you making here? The OP was > While libertarian tendencies may be more prevalent in the VC community, they seem to still be a small minority No caps. Please take your bad faith arguments elsewhere
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    Wanting a hands off business environment automatically puts one and the same tendency as libertarianism, as a fellow traveller. Neoliberals, deregulator Reaganites/Thatcherites, Grover Norquist "starve the beast" types, etc. they're all adjacent to libertarians. Even Bill Clinton and the New Democrats are not that far from libertarianism, as they were comparatively fiscally conservative than earlier versions of the Democratic Party and pushed for financial deregulation and championed market-based solutions! And even a cursory glance at the OpenSecrets list shows that the two party dichotomy is a false one. For instance, Marc Andreessen at least nominally supported Romney in 2012, then Carly Fiorina in 2016. Does that sound like a far leftist who is against libertarian ideals?

You should probably look at the link my guy. 13/20 of those definitely aren't Libertarians.

by _ktx2 4y ago

You should probably look at the link my guy. 13/20 of those definitely aren't Libertarians.

I don’t care about what political party they belong to. Do they regularly argue to slash regulations on the basis of government=bad? Do they routinely try to convince people that technology companies should be in charge of social organization rather than the government? This is the type of shit that gets talked about at VC conferences all the time: https://youtu.be/K8JIzP8HmjQ https://youtu.be/K8JIzP8HmjQ

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_ktx2 4y ago
Great, so sounds like we've found the actual culprit then. Technology companies and investors, despite their political affiliations, actually like a hands off environment. Do you understand how that's a little different from your Libertarian strawman?
- yunwal 4y ago
  Libertarian is not just a political party. It’s a set of ideas and beliefs. VCs and founders in SV routinely espouse these beliefs and try to pull both major parties in their direction. There are plenty of communists out there voting for democrats but that doesn’t make them not communists.
  - _ktx2 4y ago
    > Libertarian is not just a political party. Libertarian - a political party libertarian - an ideology I'm pretty unwilling to say that both a journalist and yunwal don't understand capitalization.
    - yunwal 4y ago
      Sometimes you capitalize words because they’re the first word in a sentence. What point are you making here? The OP was > While libertarian tendencies may be more prevalent in the VC community, they seem to still be a small minority No caps. Please take your bad faith arguments elsewhere
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  Wanting a hands off business environment automatically puts one and the same tendency as libertarianism, as a fellow traveller. Neoliberals, deregulator Reaganites/Thatcherites, Grover Norquist "starve the beast" types, etc. they're all adjacent to libertarians. Even Bill Clinton and the New Democrats are not that far from libertarianism, as they were comparatively fiscally conservative than earlier versions of the Democratic Party and pushed for financial deregulation and championed market-based solutions! And even a cursory glance at the OpenSecrets list shows that the two party dichotomy is a false one. For instance, Marc Andreessen at least nominally supported Romney in 2012, then Carly Fiorina in 2016. Does that sound like a far leftist who is against libertarian ideals?