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Are you tied to the app?

by epanchin 4y ago

thehappypm 4y ago
No, my phone is wireless
- vosper 4y ago
  Pretty sure they were asking if you could still access all the functionality currently provided by the app if it were to go away for some reason (who can see the future? It's not impossible Mitsubishi goes out of business or the app gets cancelled/pulled after some number of years)
- shagie 4y ago
  If you lost your phone, would you still be able to manage the heat pump through other interfaces? If the app wasn't updated for ${latest phone OS}, would you be be unable to upgrade the phone OS?
SamBam 4y ago
Mitsubishi heat pumps has a local thermostat that operates by remote, no cloud access needed, so if the app's servers go down it will still function.
aintgonnatakeit 4y ago
Yes s/he is. Mitsubishi force you to use their Kumo Cloud controls, which are 1) expensive (a few kk) and 2) require cloud. Supposedly Mitsubishi is replacing Kumo with something else, but that just makes the problem worse.
- spaceguillotine 4y ago
  you can get a converter to get Mitsu to work with any 24v AC controls PAC-US444CN-1, ive installed a few of them so the customer could use their existing Nest and Ecobee thermostats. I'm a former diamond certified Mitsubishi installer
  - drusenko 4y ago
    I've used the PAC-US444CN-1 (at our house) and fully native Mitsubishi thermostat/controls (at our in-laws). The converter is better than a simple 2-stage set up but is still not as good, in my experience, as the fully native one. It has to translate a 2-stage signal into a fully modulating output, and it still seems to do a lot more on & off with high fan speeds than I would like or would be most efficient (as an aside, yes I have verified that the dip switches are in the correct position on the converters). On the other hand, the unit at my in-laws tends to blow gently but consistently which is both more comfortable and more efficient.
  - JeremyPOsborne 4y ago
    spaceguillotine I'd love to hear about your experience as a former installer! Any chance for a DM?
- burntsushi 4y ago
  Wat. First of all, I have Kumo Cloud and it did not cost thousands of dollars. It was a few hundred for the adapter, and then I paid an HVAC tech to install it. That's it. Second of all, you aren't forced to use Kumo Cloud. Even though I have it, I still have a remote that operates the Split. No network or cloud required.

Are you tied to the app?

thehappypm 4y ago

No, my phone is wireless

vosper 4y ago
Pretty sure they were asking if you could still access all the functionality currently provided by the app if it were to go away for some reason (who can see the future? It's not impossible Mitsubishi goes out of business or the app gets cancelled/pulled after some number of years)
shagie 4y ago
If you lost your phone, would you still be able to manage the heat pump through other interfaces? If the app wasn't updated for ${latest phone OS}, would you be be unable to upgrade the phone OS?

SamBam 4y ago

Mitsubishi heat pumps has a local thermostat that operates by remote, no cloud access needed, so if the app's servers go down it will still function.

aintgonnatakeit 4y ago

Yes s/he is. Mitsubishi force you to use their Kumo Cloud controls, which are 1) expensive (a few kk) and 2) require cloud. Supposedly Mitsubishi is replacing Kumo with something else, but that just makes the problem worse.

spaceguillotine 4y ago
you can get a converter to get Mitsu to work with any 24v AC controls PAC-US444CN-1, ive installed a few of them so the customer could use their existing Nest and Ecobee thermostats. I'm a former diamond certified Mitsubishi installer
- drusenko 4y ago
  I've used the PAC-US444CN-1 (at our house) and fully native Mitsubishi thermostat/controls (at our in-laws). The converter is better than a simple 2-stage set up but is still not as good, in my experience, as the fully native one. It has to translate a 2-stage signal into a fully modulating output, and it still seems to do a lot more on & off with high fan speeds than I would like or would be most efficient (as an aside, yes I have verified that the dip switches are in the correct position on the converters). On the other hand, the unit at my in-laws tends to blow gently but consistently which is both more comfortable and more efficient.
- JeremyPOsborne 4y ago
  spaceguillotine I'd love to hear about your experience as a former installer! Any chance for a DM?
burntsushi 4y ago
Wat. First of all, I have Kumo Cloud and it did not cost thousands of dollars. It was a few hundred for the adapter, and then I paid an HVAC tech to install it. That's it. Second of all, you aren't forced to use Kumo Cloud. Even though I have it, I still have a remote that operates the Split. No network or cloud required.