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Ventura is a 150 year old city where 100k people live. I know this is HN, but can we not let mega-companies capture names like this? "macOS Ventura" is far clea
by erulabs 4y ago
Ventura is a 150 year old city where 100k people live. I know this is HN, but can we not let mega-companies capture names like this? "macOS Ventura" is far clearer.
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- wilg 4y agoI'm similarly mad whenever I go to the store to buy an apple.
- tomcam 4y agoHow do you think I feel? I’m a farmer with a dell.
- wahnfrieden 4y agomacOS Ventura is the official name. The linked site is a Mac blog so they omitted the prefix. Your anger should be directed at hn policy for requiring original headlines at the cost of clarity, not Apple or the Mac blog
- erulabs 4y agoFair point. I’m not angry, I’m just getting old :P
- prpl 4y agoDon’t worry, there is at least a lifetime on the usage.
- detrites 4y agoActually... > please use the original title, unless it is misleading The policy appears to invite the adding of clarity. Ie, disambiguation in this case.
- dylan604 4y agoYes, because on a tech related forum, the disambiguation of city name vs the name of an OS is front of mind on almost all readers
- andybak 4y agoI had no idea what it was about. I don't keep MacOS version names in my head. I assumed it was the name of a company. "Mac" somewhere in the title would have been very useful.
- partdavid 4y agoWhy? Macintosh is a kind of apple. Apples are fruits. Quarantine is a public health protocol. Surely we need to make it "Operating system for Cupertino (California)-based 'Apple Computer Inc.' computers version 13 changes app privilege management scheme with new xattr". Way better.
- akerl_ 4y agoIt seems you’ve tumbled down a slippery slope.
- vlunkr 4y agoThese version names are around for one year, if you're not a Mac user, it's pretty easy to be out of the loop. It's a safe place to draw the line.
- detrites 4y agoEven as a Mac user it can get a bit much.
- notbuyingit 4y agoThis thread is hilarious. I'm very familiar with xattr, but as somehow who chooses not to use an proprietary OS, whose proponents whine about constantly here, I had absolutely no idea what this would be about until I read comments. I thought maybe Ventura was a sandboxing platform or tool or something. But no apparently I'm an asshole or idiot for not keeping up with annual releases of a niche os. Jokes on jokes.
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- masklinn 4y ago> Ventura is a 150 year old city where 100k people live. I know this is HN, but can we not let mega-companies capture names like this? Ventura is 5 different cities, two different municipalities, hundreds of people, a racehorse, at least one freeway, two planes, a ship, a car, a bus company, a guitar brand (defunct), an engine, a film festival, a design show, three albums, two songs, and two bands. And an OS codename. The exclusivity you're claiming never existed, and the name capture either doesn't either, or is a long-done deal. Hell, the name of the city you're talking about isn't even Ventura, it's San Buenaventura.
- erulabs 4y agoAll the more reason for clarity?
- masklinn 4y agoIf "app quarantine" and "xattr" make you think somebody is referring to a city, racehorse, or band, I'm not sure the allowed size of titles on HN is sufficient to disambiguate. And I don't think many HN title make the cut either.
- byteknight 4y agoYou're so confidently incorrect its beyond comical. In California, Ventura CITY and Ventura county. A simple Gooling negates the need for you to be so wrong in one comment. Enjoy: https://www.cityofventura.ca.gov/ https://www.cityofventura.ca.gov/ https://www.ventura.org/ https://www.ventura.org/
- Jtsummers 4y ago> You're so confidently incorrect its beyond comical. > In California, Ventura CITY and Ventura county. > A simple Gooling negates the need for you to be so wrong in one comment. > Enjoy: https://www.cityofventura.ca.gov/ https://www.cityofventura.ca.gov/ https://www.ventura.org/ https://www.ventura.org/ From your first link: https://www.cityofventura.ca.gov/594/About-Ventura https://www.cityofventura.ca.gov/594/About-Ventura > Ventura, officially named San Buenaventura, was founded in 1782 when Saint Junipero Serra established Mission San Buenaventura, the ninth of the California missions.
- swsieber 4y agoI thought it was pretty clear with the word "app" in there.
- bombcar 4y agoI had to read it three times before I worked out it wasn't some city in California doing something with transfers on a Covid-19 quarantine app.
- tiffanyh 4y agoCompanies use cities & national park names in products because you can’t trademark those names. So you don’t have to worry about being sued over name infringement.
- zamnos 4y agoBut doesn't that imply that the company also can't trademark the name for themselves? Being able to protect your own name seems important.
- coldtea 4y agoI think one great thing that makes people superior to GPT is our increased capacity for context sensitive semantics and nuance...