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> Why should people have to drive Want to add, with walkable cities and less car centricism you absolutely don't have to drive. Not meaning to be insensitive

> Why should people have to drive Want to add, with walkable cities and less car centricism you absolutely don't have to drive. Not meaning to be insensitive to less healthy people who enter into that condition through no fault of their own, but also, perhaps fewer people would be in a position that they are physically unable to shop for groceries if they didn't "have to drive", and got in the exercise of a daily walk to the grocer.

barbazoo 4y ago
I shouldn't have said "drive", I could also walk to a corner store or bike to the grocery store but unless you're single or you only buy what you need immediately you need something else. I can't buy groceries for 2 weeks for a family and haul them back on foot or bike. And that's as often as I want to go to a grocery store, max. And as I said, getting that amount of groceries delivered is even better and at the same time this is so much more energy efficient and so much less wasteful than getting these "meal prep" kits. They just don't make sense.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  > I can't buy groceries for 2 weeks for a family and haul them back on foot or bike. Why not? On foot might be a bit much, but on a bike, with a trailer, this isn't hard at all.
  - barbazoo 4y ago
    I think you're projecting your lifestyle on other people, not sure what your goal is here. If this works for you, great, I'm happy for you.
    - JohnFen 4y ago
      I was just taking issue with the "I can't". Perhaps I read that wrong, but it sounded like "It's not possible" to me. All I was saying is that it is, in fact, possible. It may not be the right solution for you, but it's certainly a possible solution.
      - barbazoo 4y ago
        Oh that makes sense, yes. I actually have my eye on a cargo bike that can handle the amount of groceries AND one or even 2 kids but right now that's not in my budget.
  - asveikau 4y ago
    I also want to be sensitive to people who literally cannot. Physical disability or varying conditions of health are definitely a thing. But, a lot of people don't have those disabilities and choose to live differently.
- asveikau 4y ago
  I'm a father of two. I'm really tired of seeing this "once you have a family you'll see you need to drive everywhere" thing. It is not so inevitable, it is a choice; it's kind of the default choice for many in the US, sure, but it doesn't need to be so. You're thinking about it kind of wrong. You don't need to fill a huge fucking jeep with groceries for the month. You make it part of your daily routine to get a little at each trip. The store is already close to where you will be.
  - barbazoo 4y ago
    I didn't say "once you have a family you'll see you need to drive everywhere". so I don't know where that is coming from and also I'm not from the US. I think it's fine if one decides to buy groceries for 2 weeks instead of every couple of days, everyone is different and this might be more practical for some than others. That's personal choice.

barbazoo 4y ago

I shouldn't have said "drive", I could also walk to a corner store or bike to the grocery store but unless you're single or you only buy what you need immediately you need something else. I can't buy groceries for 2 weeks for a family and haul them back on foot or bike. And that's as often as I want to go to a grocery store, max. And as I said, getting that amount of groceries delivered is even better and at the same time this is so much more energy efficient and so much less wasteful than getting these "meal prep" kits. They just don't make sense.

JohnFen 4y ago
> I can't buy groceries for 2 weeks for a family and haul them back on foot or bike. Why not? On foot might be a bit much, but on a bike, with a trailer, this isn't hard at all.
- barbazoo 4y ago
  I think you're projecting your lifestyle on other people, not sure what your goal is here. If this works for you, great, I'm happy for you.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    I was just taking issue with the "I can't". Perhaps I read that wrong, but it sounded like "It's not possible" to me. All I was saying is that it is, in fact, possible. It may not be the right solution for you, but it's certainly a possible solution.
    - barbazoo 4y ago
      Oh that makes sense, yes. I actually have my eye on a cargo bike that can handle the amount of groceries AND one or even 2 kids but right now that's not in my budget.
- asveikau 4y ago
  I also want to be sensitive to people who literally cannot. Physical disability or varying conditions of health are definitely a thing. But, a lot of people don't have those disabilities and choose to live differently.
asveikau 4y ago
I'm a father of two. I'm really tired of seeing this "once you have a family you'll see you need to drive everywhere" thing. It is not so inevitable, it is a choice; it's kind of the default choice for many in the US, sure, but it doesn't need to be so. You're thinking about it kind of wrong. You don't need to fill a huge fucking jeep with groceries for the month. You make it part of your daily routine to get a little at each trip. The store is already close to where you will be.
- barbazoo 4y ago
  I didn't say "once you have a family you'll see you need to drive everywhere". so I don't know where that is coming from and also I'm not from the US. I think it's fine if one decides to buy groceries for 2 weeks instead of every couple of days, everyone is different and this might be more practical for some than others. That's personal choice.