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* Discriminating women in tech. Recent conversation with a friend in Google: - How many women do you have on the team? - Well, not many - But how much? - No

* Discriminating women in tech. Recent conversation with a friend in Google: - How many women do you have on the team? - Well, not many - But how much? - None * Looking for a "culture fit"/"perfect fit" while hiring. Surprisingly realized that as immigrant, I have better interview performance while interviewing with other immigrants. I had Facebook offer because other folks were from China, India, and so on. However, white males almost always look for a "fit". If you can't make friends with them in one hour, in most cases you gonna hurt their "subjective feeling". Many many times I was getting response like "everything was good, but it's not just a good time". Hello Roblox, Gopuff, Coinbase, etc. Interviewing with immigrants is such a relief, like it or not!

the_snooze 4y ago
>If you can't make friends with them in one hour, in most cases you gonna hurt their "subjective feeling". Many many times I was getting response like "everything was good, but it's not just a good time". This is something I struggle with, on the other side of the hiring table. Culture-wise, my team and I look for people who aren't afraid to be up-front about what they don't know and ask direct questions about it. And likewise, who don't hesitate to speak up when more experienced people are unclear or make mistakes. I recognize that kind of socialization tracks quite closely with western upper-middle-class upbringing, but I'd like to do better breaking out of that. Do you have suggestions for improvement?
- RomanPushkin 4y ago
  > my team and I look for people who aren't afraid to be up-front about what they don't know and ask direct questions about it. And likewise, who don't hesitate to speak up when more experienced people are unclear or make mistakes Is it in your job description? Do you have a policy or internal document that sums up these expectations? Have you tried any trainings to make sure you're all on the same page? Just curious, because those sound to me like those unwritten rules that you have understand/extract from conversations only, and TBH I doubt they are mentioned anywhere.
1letterunixname 4y ago
The absence of identity attribute X doesn't prove there is discrimination against X. There aren't enough women software engineers to go around to every department.

the_snooze 4y ago

>If you can't make friends with them in one hour, in most cases you gonna hurt their "subjective feeling". Many many times I was getting response like "everything was good, but it's not just a good time". This is something I struggle with, on the other side of the hiring table. Culture-wise, my team and I look for people who aren't afraid to be up-front about what they don't know and ask direct questions about it. And likewise, who don't hesitate to speak up when more experienced people are unclear or make mistakes. I recognize that kind of socialization tracks quite closely with western upper-middle-class upbringing, but I'd like to do better breaking out of that. Do you have suggestions for improvement?

RomanPushkin 4y ago
> my team and I look for people who aren't afraid to be up-front about what they don't know and ask direct questions about it. And likewise, who don't hesitate to speak up when more experienced people are unclear or make mistakes Is it in your job description? Do you have a policy or internal document that sums up these expectations? Have you tried any trainings to make sure you're all on the same page? Just curious, because those sound to me like those unwritten rules that you have understand/extract from conversations only, and TBH I doubt they are mentioned anywhere.

1letterunixname 4y ago

The absence of identity attribute X doesn't prove there is discrimination against X. There aren't enough women software engineers to go around to every department.