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>This is a dumb Russian PR narrative. While that sounds super informed and non-biased, let's pretend for a minute that it isn't the amount of military stocks (

>This is a dumb Russian PR narrative. While that sounds super informed and non-biased, let's pretend for a minute that it isn't the amount of military stocks (since everyone uses missiles and drones now anyway) but the location. So let me re-phrase the question. Do you think the US would be super-cool with China putting a military base with one single missle close to us? Let's not pretend that NATO wasn't founded to take down the Soviet Union (and mostly succeded!). So, while I would be the first to admit that Putin prob. has some ulterior motives, it isn't fantasy. Also, we have absolutely destroyed countries for "acting a little too communist-y" in our hemisphere before, so it isn't like this sort of thing can't realistically make people nervous. Again, not defending Russia, but everyone pretending that this is just "super crazy evil guy doing Hitler things out of the blue" is really sophomoric.

mopsi 4y ago
> Do you think the US would be super-cool with China putting a military base with one single missle close to us? I think that these super-duper clever questions insinuating missiles and bases in Eastern Europe are also dumb and misleading. In the founding act on NATO-Russian relations, it was agreed upon that no-one would place strategic weapons in Eastern Europe, and NATO upheld its part. Placement of conventional forces has also been modest to put it mildly, limited to a small number of light infantry, for training purposes. Things only began to change after 2014. You can guess why.
- mhuffman 4y ago
  When modern warfare is missiles and drones you don't need conventional forces, you just need the base ... right? Also, I don't have a dog in this fight, I just find it interesting that every subject on Earth seems to have two sides to the story except this one, apparently.
  - mopsi 4y ago
    What missiles, where? As to one-sidedness, murdering innocent people tends to be morally pretty one-sided indeed.

mopsi 4y ago

> Do you think the US would be super-cool with China putting a military base with one single missle close to us? I think that these super-duper clever questions insinuating missiles and bases in Eastern Europe are also dumb and misleading. In the founding act on NATO-Russian relations, it was agreed upon that no-one would place strategic weapons in Eastern Europe, and NATO upheld its part. Placement of conventional forces has also been modest to put it mildly, limited to a small number of light infantry, for training purposes. Things only began to change after 2014. You can guess why.

mhuffman 4y ago
When modern warfare is missiles and drones you don't need conventional forces, you just need the base ... right? Also, I don't have a dog in this fight, I just find it interesting that every subject on Earth seems to have two sides to the story except this one, apparently.
- mopsi 4y ago
  What missiles, where? As to one-sidedness, murdering innocent people tends to be morally pretty one-sided indeed.