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> As winter ends, Russia has lost this phase of the conflict Russia is losing "phase" after "phase" of the conflict until all the Ukrainian cemeteries will be
by paganel 4y ago
> As winter ends, Russia has lost this phase of the conflict
Russia is losing "phase" after "phase" of the conflict until all the Ukrainian cemeteries will be filled with men aged 20 to 65. I hate Atlanticist propaganda.
- albertopv 4y agoI hate russian trolls
- orangepurple 4y agoIf Russia seizes control of the entire territory they will still put out pieces about how Russia lost.
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- jonathanstrange 4y agoIt's not very convincing to portray an obvious lose-lose scenario as a win for anyone. What can be said is that Russia so far has not reached any of its political and military objectives. So far, the Russian aggressors have even failed to capture a relatively unimportant town of 70,000 inhabitants as part of an allegedly large offensive.
- orangepurple 4y agoI'm right there with you
- MrRiddle 4y ago[dead]
- bigbacaloa 4y agoRussian shills are pathetic people.
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- alkonaut 4y agoIs there a contradiction somewhere? Everyone, not least every Ukrainian, knows the prize of the defeat of Russia will be a large part of a generation of Ukrainian men and women. That doesn't make it "not a defeat" for Russia unless the initial ambitions of Russia are achieved (And let's face it, they won't be). It's a very expensive victory for Ukraine and an even more expensive defeat for Russia.
- herculity275 4y ago"Atlanticist propaganda" is when you don't bow down to Putin's tiny feet
- gambiting 4y agoRussia lost 20 million men(!!!!) In WW2 and yet it was still a victory. Ukraine can and will win this conflict, but of course the cost will be a massive amount of deaths on their end.
- QuadmasterXLII 4y agoThe price of russian defeat is terrible, but does not compare to the price of russian victory that we have seen in Bucha and Mariupol.
- thriftwy 4y ago[flagged]
- goneri 4y agoThe damages were caused by the invaders. Everything was preventable and they decided to attack. But it's easier to blame the army who dare to risk their lives to defend their country, right? Regarding the Mariupol reconstruction, this is a story pushed by the Russian propaganda and in reality, it will take decades to fully rebuild the city. And what about the life of all the civilians, those won't come back. That's what Russia call a "liberation".
- fractallyte 4y ago...And an article that supports everything you just stated: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64887890 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64887890 [Life in Mariupol under Russian occupation]
- lm28469 4y agoYou don't have to be an `Atlanticist` to see how bad things are for Russia in term of what they expected vs what they got, in fact even inside Russia many (pro war) voices criticise the pace and results of most operations. They lost insane amount of men and equipment and aren't anywhere close to their initial objective, and they seem to struggle much more than Ukrainians in term of replenishing ammo and equipment They're not losing the war but they're clearly struggling much more than they ever expected
- jostiniane 4y agoWhat else do you expect? Hollywood told us we can't loose so I guess it should be that. It's all cope after cope after cope, poor Ukrainian men dragged by force are the ones paying for Zelensky next round of fundings.
- tokinonagare 4y agoIt's true that Ukrainians winning for almost a year they should be at the gates of Moscow now, no? That's what I would think if newspapers in my country (France) were to be believed.
- jostiniane 4y agoif you somehow disagree and point out the other narrative, you are a putin Chill.. Pathetic how the orange website is not safe from trolls.
- daveguy 4y agoThey aren't trying to invade Russia. They are trying to defend their sovereign country against Russian aggression. Russia is showing the world how incompetent their military is at the same time Ukraine is successfully defending their homeland. Putin is a pathetic joke. He can't even keep the mercenaries from disparaging his weak military. Ukraine will never be "at the gates of Moscow" because they aren't trying to invade Russia.
- thriftwy 4y agoCrimea is, for all intents and purposes, Russia, and Ukraine has never ceased promising an invasion to bring it "back home".
- The_Colonel 4y agoBasically the whole world disagrees and considers Crimea to be Ukrainian. Including China, for example.
- thriftwy 4y agoIt's not their business - Crimea is Russian domestic affair now and the opinion of the whole world is irrelevant. Much like the opinion of the whole world of what happens in Guantanamo or Xinjiang is safely ignored. Except that people are not in any death camps in Crimea but actual resort camps such as Artek.