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a relative of mine has a husband who was supposed to join the clergy. He just dropped out of the program and married her. Now he's not a priest but a parochial

a relative of mine has a husband who was supposed to join the clergy. He just dropped out of the program and married her. Now he's not a priest but a parochial worker. Might be that it is harder to find straight priests because it is possible to just drop out, marry and live a very respectable life. Now if you drop out and come out as gay well that would be a lot more difficult in that kind of community.

bombolo 4y ago
Catholic priests can't quit being priests. It's a permanent-sin status like divorce.
- NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
  False on both counts!!! First, divorce is a one-and-done sin. Someone who finalizes a divorce and confesses it is in a state of grace, much as someone who ate steak last Friday and confessed.it. Now, a laicized priest is in no sin either, unless he attempts to hold himself out as a priest still. A man with a rescript from the Holy See is typically freed from all obligations of the clerical state, and that can and will often include celibacy, so a laicized priest is perfectly eligible for marriage, and perhaps a really good catch.
  - bombolo 4y ago
    Do you have a source on this? Wikipedia is disagreeing with you https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimissione_dallo_stato_clericale https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimissione_dallo_stato_clerica...
    - NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
      I'm not sure where you see disagreement. It's not a personal sin for the priest to be dismissed. See #3, by request. Oh sure, a priest may be dismissed as a penalty, for something he did, namely sins such as abuse, but the dismissal itself is not sinful like procuring a divorce. The OP compared laicization to a divorce, and it's nothing like that at all. Think of it this way: it's not a crime to go to prison, but one will certainly go to prison as the result of a crime.
- Tpt 4y ago
  But before becoming priest there is a quite long training program (often 5-6 years). Dropping out of it is quite common. And even after becoming a priest, they can asked to be relieved for their obligations, including celibacy. But in this case they would have to find an other job.
- nickd2001 4y ago
  Er, as a Catholic I'd be inclined to dispute this. I know a few ex-priests. One of whom has been happily married for years. Another became a C of E minister and also got married. Another left the priesthood for 17 yrs then eventually came back. My understanding is, its intended to be a lifelong commitment, but it doesn't always work out. A marriage can be annulled in the church if it is thought that one of both parties failed to fully understand what they were promising to each other or fully enter into the promise being a true commitment. That could be the case with ordaining a priest too. As well as the fact that being a priest is an extremely hard job as well as the celibacy requirement so some people come to the conclusion they are unable to fulfil the role properly.

bombolo 4y ago

Catholic priests can't quit being priests. It's a permanent-sin status like divorce.

NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
False on both counts!!! First, divorce is a one-and-done sin. Someone who finalizes a divorce and confesses it is in a state of grace, much as someone who ate steak last Friday and confessed.it. Now, a laicized priest is in no sin either, unless he attempts to hold himself out as a priest still. A man with a rescript from the Holy See is typically freed from all obligations of the clerical state, and that can and will often include celibacy, so a laicized priest is perfectly eligible for marriage, and perhaps a really good catch.
- bombolo 4y ago
  Do you have a source on this? Wikipedia is disagreeing with you https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimissione_dallo_stato_clericale https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimissione_dallo_stato_clerica...
  - NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
    I'm not sure where you see disagreement. It's not a personal sin for the priest to be dismissed. See #3, by request. Oh sure, a priest may be dismissed as a penalty, for something he did, namely sins such as abuse, but the dismissal itself is not sinful like procuring a divorce. The OP compared laicization to a divorce, and it's nothing like that at all. Think of it this way: it's not a crime to go to prison, but one will certainly go to prison as the result of a crime.
Tpt 4y ago
But before becoming priest there is a quite long training program (often 5-6 years). Dropping out of it is quite common. And even after becoming a priest, they can asked to be relieved for their obligations, including celibacy. But in this case they would have to find an other job.
nickd2001 4y ago
Er, as a Catholic I'd be inclined to dispute this. I know a few ex-priests. One of whom has been happily married for years. Another became a C of E minister and also got married. Another left the priesthood for 17 yrs then eventually came back. My understanding is, its intended to be a lifelong commitment, but it doesn't always work out. A marriage can be annulled in the church if it is thought that one of both parties failed to fully understand what they were promising to each other or fully enter into the promise being a true commitment. That could be the case with ordaining a priest too. As well as the fact that being a priest is an extremely hard job as well as the celibacy requirement so some people come to the conclusion they are unable to fulfil the role properly.