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This is probably the inflection point in history where I lost all trust I had in Google. I don't know how much they saved by shutting it down (probably nearly n

This is probably the inflection point in history where I lost all trust I had in Google. I don't know how much they saved by shutting it down (probably nearly nothing) but I know that for me and people around me it was a such terrible signal that I never trusted again Google for anything serious/business. Well done guys

thr717272 4y ago
Ironically, for me it was probably when they shut down Google+ that I finally changed my views on Google. For me Google+ was a lot like HN: Peaceful, quiet and beautiful and lots Open Source content and smart people. I still look once or twice a year but it seems everyone who are into building social media wants to copy not only the very limited functionality of Twitter, down to its dumb limitations, but also its UX and aestheti. The exceptions I am aware of are Hubzilla (which lools seriously interesting but just confuses me and has no obvious way to enter - and yes, I can create my own instance but I cannot find anyone else), Diaspora (which I think copies Facebook and which is also confusing) and MeWe (which superficially look like Google+ but insist on repeating Googles mistake WRT real name policy).
- jemmyw 4y ago
  I also liked Google+ it was where I could manage my tech social stuff without participating in the madness that Facebook was becoming.
  - modo_mario 4y ago
    The trickle in invitation system with which they made it public was such a glaringly obvious mistake it still makes me mad. So many people I knew had accounts there but stopped using it because their friends weren't there or by the time they could join their friends had already left because in turn their friends weren't there.
    - thr717272 4y ago
      That, on top of branding it with the same name as the hated login system that[1] hamfistedly joined peoples accounts across vwry different contexts. [1]: or so I heard, I wasn't affected, I postponed that part again and again until that part ended up being very smooth for me
- saurik 4y ago
  Yeah: they essentially deleted the early Android community and all of the knowledge and history that was built up around it, because all of those people were organized on Google+. And I think it is also important to note that shutting down that particular service felt like a particularly frustrating insult given how they had essentially rammed it down everyone's throats and forced it to get integrated into every single Google product in confusing and sometimes horrifying ways... and then it failed anyway.
  - dredmorbius 4y ago
    There were over 8 million Google+ Communities formed. Roughly 10,000 of those had > 10k members, based on my own analysis of a data extract of these: <https://social.antefriguserat.de/index.php/Migrating_Google%2B_Communities https://social.antefriguserat.de/index.php/Migrating_Google%...> The absolute obliteration of online groups was inexcusable, most especially as there were not provisions made for exporting or supporting contact, and in fact active obstruction of attempts to the same.
pirsquare 4y ago
Yes in my case I was a 4 yrs customer with Google Cloud and they abruptly shutdown all my servers last friday. Any decent human being would at least try to rectify things ASAP, except for Google. 3 days now and they still haven't gave me a resolution. They're the most dysfunctional organization I've seen in my life. It's like communications between teams goes with a "none of my business" attitude. Context: https://www.onvoard.com/blog/our-production-servers-was-suspended-by-google-cloud https://www.onvoard.com/blog/our-production-servers-was-susp...
- kennyadam 4y ago
  Google's support is a joke. I honestly don't think anyone should do business with them.
  - pirsquare 4y ago
    Their support is so horrible that we should rename Google Cloud Platform as "Google Clown Platform"
- ChatGTP 4y ago
  This single comment has made me decide to move away from Google cloud before I launch my product in the coming weeks. Thanks.
- Kototama 4y ago
  > They're the most dysfunctional organization I've seen in my life. Try UPS...

thr717272 4y ago

Ironically, for me it was probably when they shut down Google+ that I finally changed my views on Google. For me Google+ was a lot like HN: Peaceful, quiet and beautiful and lots Open Source content and smart people. I still look once or twice a year but it seems everyone who are into building social media wants to copy not only the very limited functionality of Twitter, down to its dumb limitations, but also its UX and aestheti. The exceptions I am aware of are Hubzilla (which lools seriously interesting but just confuses me and has no obvious way to enter - and yes, I can create my own instance but I cannot find anyone else), Diaspora (which I think copies Facebook and which is also confusing) and MeWe (which superficially look like Google+ but insist on repeating Googles mistake WRT real name policy).

jemmyw 4y ago
I also liked Google+ it was where I could manage my tech social stuff without participating in the madness that Facebook was becoming.
- modo_mario 4y ago
  The trickle in invitation system with which they made it public was such a glaringly obvious mistake it still makes me mad. So many people I knew had accounts there but stopped using it because their friends weren't there or by the time they could join their friends had already left because in turn their friends weren't there.
  - thr717272 4y ago
    That, on top of branding it with the same name as the hated login system that[1] hamfistedly joined peoples accounts across vwry different contexts. [1]: or so I heard, I wasn't affected, I postponed that part again and again until that part ended up being very smooth for me
saurik 4y ago
Yeah: they essentially deleted the early Android community and all of the knowledge and history that was built up around it, because all of those people were organized on Google+. And I think it is also important to note that shutting down that particular service felt like a particularly frustrating insult given how they had essentially rammed it down everyone's throats and forced it to get integrated into every single Google product in confusing and sometimes horrifying ways... and then it failed anyway.
- dredmorbius 4y ago
  There were over 8 million Google+ Communities formed. Roughly 10,000 of those had > 10k members, based on my own analysis of a data extract of these: <https://social.antefriguserat.de/index.php/Migrating_Google%2B_Communities https://social.antefriguserat.de/index.php/Migrating_Google%...> The absolute obliteration of online groups was inexcusable, most especially as there were not provisions made for exporting or supporting contact, and in fact active obstruction of attempts to the same.

pirsquare 4y ago

Yes in my case I was a 4 yrs customer with Google Cloud and they abruptly shutdown all my servers last friday. Any decent human being would at least try to rectify things ASAP, except for Google. 3 days now and they still haven't gave me a resolution. They're the most dysfunctional organization I've seen in my life. It's like communications between teams goes with a "none of my business" attitude. Context: https://www.onvoard.com/blog/our-production-servers-was-suspended-by-google-cloud https://www.onvoard.com/blog/our-production-servers-was-susp...

kennyadam 4y ago
Google's support is a joke. I honestly don't think anyone should do business with them.
- pirsquare 4y ago
  Their support is so horrible that we should rename Google Cloud Platform as "Google Clown Platform"
ChatGTP 4y ago
This single comment has made me decide to move away from Google cloud before I launch my product in the coming weeks. Thanks.
Kototama 4y ago
> They're the most dysfunctional organization I've seen in my life. Try UPS...