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If other banks fail, I expect it will not be for the same reason. That's not based on any original thinking or analysis, but others have pointed out that most
by vba616 4y ago
If other banks fail, I expect it will not be for the same reason.
That's not based on any original thinking or analysis, but others have pointed out that most banks have more diverse depositors who don't have as much money individually and don't all talk to each other, making a bank run much less likely. The other banks also have an easier time putting deposits to work in a way that isn't so sensitive to interest rate increases. Allegedly, a normal well run bank should actually increase profits overall as rates rise.
There are a lot of lame attempts at anti-tech snark, but it does make sense that this bank was unusual.
Matthew Levine wrote:
"You are the Bank of Startups, and startups are a low-interest-rate phenomenon. When interest rates are low everywhere, a dollar in 20 years is about as good as a dollar today, so a startup whose business model is “we will lose money for a decade building artificial intelligence, and then rake in lots of money in the far future” sounds pretty good. When interest rates are higher, a dollar today is better than a dollar tomorrow, so investors want cash flows. When interest rates were low for a long time, and suddenly become high, all the money that was rushing to your customers is suddenly cut off. "
This does not apply to a random regional bank that, like, lends money to local people to buy houses outside of CA. Regular banks have a certain amount of assets with variable rates, like, say, my HELOC, that cushion rate increases.
Also, if you want anti-tech snark, Levine is the best:
"... I am sorry to be rude, but there is another reason that it is maybe not great to be the Bank of Startups, which is that nobody on Earth is more of a herd animal than Silicon Valley venture capitalists. What you want, as a bank, is a certain amount of diversity among your depositors. If some depositors get spooked and take their money out, and other depositors evaluate your balance sheet and decide things are fine and keep their money in, and lots more depositors keep their money in because they simply don’t pay attention to banking news, then you have a shot at muddling through your problems.
But if all of your depositors are startups with the same handful of venture capitalists on their boards, and all those venture capitalists are competing with each other to Add Value and Be Influencers and Do The Current Thing by calling all their portfolio companies to say “hey, did you hear, everyone’s taking money out of Silicon Valley Bank, you should too,” then all of your depositors will take their money out at the same time."
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"Nah, man, you don’t get to be a successful venture capitalist by taking a long view or investing in relationships or being contrarian. I’m sorry, I’m sorry, this is unfair. Of course they were right — Silicon Valley Bank did collapse, and if you got your money out early that was good for you — but that is largely self-fulfilling; if all the VCs hadn’t decided all at once to pull their money, SVB probably would not have collapsed."
- twblalock 4y agoThe problem is that now everyone will be scrutinizing every bank very heavily and will find similar bad investments like the ones SVB made. It's inconceivable that SVB was the only bank that bet on long-term bonds before the Fed raised rates. If SVB probably isn't the only bank that didn't account for the duration risk either. Just as with SVB, it only takes a few depositors to freak out in order to start a stampede, which is the point Matt Levine made about this being a self-fulfilling problem. For example, if I was a customer of First Republic Bank I'd be seriously thinking about moving my money to JP Morgan.
- vba616 4y ago> it only takes a few depositors I don't think so? I mean if you had everything concentrated in a literal handful of depositors perhaps, but surely no real bank is like that including SVB. The deposits were in the billions; articles say some depositors had amounts in the millions, a billion (American) is a thousand million, you know? Levine was saying, and it sounds right to me, that when your depositors are a mix of ordinary people, they aren't all talking to each other or even paying attention, it prevents a stampede when there isn't any actual problem. Of course, that doesn't mean SVB won't have effects on other things. I halfway expect USDC to collapse first thing Monday. When it rebounded from about 90 cents, I thought "ah, but didn't Coinbase stop withdrawals until Monday?" But I'm making the distinction with any linkage or contagion that it's not going to be the same phenomenon, it's going to be something specific and different.
- twblalock 4y ago> Levine was saying, and it sounds right to me, that when your depositors are a mix of ordinary people, they aren't all talking to each other or even paying attention, it prevents a stampede when there isn't any actual problem. I think social media changes that. Plus this is front-page stuff for every major news organization, which is not what would happen if a small regional bank that doesn't matter fails (which happens multiple times per year). Plus it comes at a time when people are already nervous about the economy for a number of reasons, including Fed rate increases which are directly related to the devaluation of SVB's investments.